Stauffbier

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I'm not surprised at their response. I tried it again this past weekend, and I too noted the chocolate malt (or possibly brown malt).

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stjackson

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They are definitely using more malt than they are listing here. There is a strong roast flavor to it. Probably chocolate malt like a couple of folks have mentioned.

chumpsteak

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Have to resurect this thread because I've had this beer a couple times now and I love it. Going to attempt a clone and checked the NB website again and found this information that I'm not sure anyone has mentioned yet:

Fall is here and with it our seasonal ale, Red Hoptober. Shining like autumn leaves in a globe glass this beer pours a dark and lovely garnet as it builds a bright, inviting head. The Eldorado hops are bold and present with a distinct, piney flavor while the caramel malt and roasted barley provide a backbone to stand Red Hoptober upright. Centennial and Cascade hops offer hints of citrus, tickling the nose, while the tongue carries a subtle, roasty tone that pairs pleasantly with the warming bite of bitter. Red Hoptober is perfect for shortening days and campfire nights.

They mention roasted barley and state that the Eldorado hops have a distinct piney flavor. Not sure I got piney, but definitely got some fruity flavors from the Eldorado hops. I don't have access to those hops locally, so I think I'll try to find a substitute.

Thinking about going with CTZ for bittering and some cascade and centennial for flavor additions. Need to come up with some fruity hops for late additions and was thinking about using citra, or some Nelson Sauvin I have left over. Open to suggestions on the fruity hops but only have local access to so much.

Will post the recipe when I come up with one.

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chumpsteak

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OK, some of you pro's look this over and tell me what you think. Went with Chinook for bittering because I like Chinook and think it will add a little pine and wen't with Nelson for the late fruity additions because I have it and think it might work to replace the El Dorado that NB uses.

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 7.85 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.50 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.25 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
Estimated Color: 22.8 SRM
Estimated IBU: 60.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 62.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.8 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
12 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 84.2 %
1 lbs 12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 2 12.3 %
6.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 3 2.6 %
2.0 oz Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 4 0.9 %
22.25 g Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 31.5 IBUs
14.20 g Cascade [7.90 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 8.5 IBUs
14.20 g Cascade [7.90 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 6.1 IBUs
14.20 g Centennial [9.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 7.3 IBUs
14.20 g Centennial [9.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9 2.9 IBUs
14.20 g Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 10 3.7 IBUs
14.20 g Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Aroma Steep 0. Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [0.0 Yeast 12 -
14.20 g Centennial [9.50 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
14.20 g Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Da Hop 14 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Our Mash w/ Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 14 lbs 4.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 4.70 gal of water at 166.5 F 155.0 F 60 min

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coolharry

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Does NB have two different hoptobers? Cause this is what I found:

http://www.newbelgium.com/beer/detail.aspx?id=6780bca7-5177-4fb5-8665-1a2721d12236

Centennial, Cascade, Sterling, Glacier, Willamette
Pale, Rye, Oats, C-80, Wheat

chumpsteak

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Yeah, this thread kind of morphed into a red hoptober thread. The regular hoptober is no more and has been replaced by Red Hoptober which in my opinion is much better.

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Chumpsteak, I dont speak metric, but the recipe looks good nonetheless. Thank you for throwing chocolate malt in there; I pull a good amount of chocolate malt out of the beer, although they never confirm it. Unless the El Dorado and Roasted Barley are creating that. At the same time, they just recently added roasted barley as an ingredient, so something isnt adding up. A conspiracy I say!

naiek

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Friend at work was telling me about this beer yesterday, then I happened upon this thread. He brought a bottle of it in for me today to try

chumpsteak

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Lol approx 28.3 grams to an ounce. My scale does grams and its way more accurate than ounces.

I definitely get some chocolate too, so im thinking a little in the grain bill is a good idea. Thought about just chocolate but decided i needed the roasted to get the color closer. I think the grain bill is pretty good but im not sure on the hops so any input on that would be appreciated. Mostly concerned about finding a fruity hop without too much citrus.

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I didn't notice any chocolate malt last time I had one a couple weeks ago. I'd probably go without it. It definitely seemed to me to be a relatively light colored beer that was made dark red(ish) with a small amount of dark grains. The roasted barley fits that bill, in my mind.

I've never formulated a clone, though. So, I may be way off.

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