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07-22-2006, 01:43 AM
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Homebrewing in NJ ILLEGAL w/o permit!!!
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I cant f***ing believe it... f***ing NJ has a f***ing tax for ever f***ing *** damn thing on this f***ing planet. f*** NJ.
In 1995 as per §33:1-75, there was a $3 fee for a permit. Says here on the ABC webpage that I have to pay $10 to homebrew legally.
http://www.state.nj.us/oag/abc/faqs.html#CAN
New Jersey resident, over the age of 21 may engage in the personal manufacture (or “home brewing”) of up to 200 gallons of wine or malt alcoholic beverage (beer) for personal or household use or consumption. To lawfully engage in this activity a $10.00 permit must be obtained from the Division of ABC. All wines or malt alcoholic beverages manufactured pursuant to this permit may not be sold under any circumstances, nor may they be used for any purpose other than for personal or household use or consumption of the person to whom the permit was issued. This permit allows the manufacturer of wines and malt alcoholic beverages within the homes of the permittee or other authorized premises during the permit period. In certain circumstances, home brewing is permissible outside of the home of the permittee if the place of brewing is an authorized “noncommercial” premises in addition to other specific requirements. The owner of a warehouse used with this permit must obtain a public warehouse license from the Division of ABC.
Finally, any wine or beer manufactured on a noncommercial premises is subject to the same limitations for products brewed at home: namely, that there is a 200 gallon per year limit per permittee and the wine or beer produced on the noncommercial premises may not be sold under any circumstances, nor may it be used for any purpose other than for personal or household use or consumption by the licensee or permittee.
WAIT!!
Then I looked at the permit, AND THEY ANTED IT UP ANOTHER $10 to 20 bucks!!
http://www.state.nj.us/oag/abc/downloads/hbp.pdf
$20 fee!!! Greedy f***s! I'll shove a jackson up the ass of the cop that comes to my door asking about my homebrew 
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07-22-2006, 02:10 AM
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I'm NJ born and bred...that's why I don't live there anymore...and never will again... 
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07-22-2006, 03:37 AM
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Im probably move to FL after I have enough experience to comfortably land a better job. Network Engineering usually takes a good 3-5 years experience to be considered... I have 1 with this "title" 
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07-22-2006, 03:40 AM
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From Modern Man: "I give up, I won't even try. I guess you have to move to New Jersey to die. Only thing wrong there, how would you know when you're dead?"
Went to High School in NJ, in the late '60s. Been back once, but I was just driving through to Philly.
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Last edited by david_42; 07-23-2006 at 04:50 PM.
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07-22-2006, 03:55 AM
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i would think that would be only one of MANY reasons not to live in New Jersey....
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07-22-2006, 04:18 AM
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Move across the river.
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07-22-2006, 01:22 PM
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F*** em!!I live in Michigan and the dumb bitch running the show here thinks its ok too raise all the fee's she can..I surprised that she has'ent went after HBing.
Last edited by Porter fan; 07-22-2006 at 01:24 PM.
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07-22-2006, 06:16 PM
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They'd have to get past my front door first, and my doorman is named "Mossberg"
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07-22-2006, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sirsloop
All wines or malt alcoholic beverages manufactured pursuant to this permit may not be sold under any circumstances, nor may they be used for any purpose other than for personal or household use or consumption of the person to whom the permit was issued.
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This little line here also implies that not only can it not be sold (fairly obvious) but that the permit holder is the only one technically allowed to consume the beverage. So I guess even sharing a few of the brews with friends, for free, is out of the question.
-Chris
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07-22-2006, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Radarbrew
They'd have to get past my front door first, and my doorman is named "Mossberg"
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Ha Ha That's a good one! 
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