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Old thread that should be removed. OP is a real prize. Congratulations buddy. Now go away. Please.


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Old thread that should be removed. OP is a real prize. Congratulations buddy. Now go away. Please.


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Makes me chuckle when a new member of a forum tells a well respected member to take a hike. And its especially hilarious when the well respected member is a moderator.

;)
 
Ya CrappinKen is a pretty funny misspelled word on the forum.


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Makes me chuckle when a new member of a forum tells a well respected member to take a hike. And its especially hilarious when the well respected member is a moderator.

;)

We see life differently. I enjoy reading this forum, the responsiveness of everyone here, almost universally positive, typically in good humor, and always generous, is truly inspiring. You may very well fall into that category as well on other posts, but this one, well I didn't see it. I don't monitor (clearly) the names here- I am a noob poster after all as you correctly pointed out. Your thread seemed insensitive to those who may not have the same writing skill set as yourself. I don't intend to beat anyone up over their grammar or spelling acumen (and yes, there are some atrocious errors!). Thus my comments back to you. Sorry to offend your sensibilities, you did add a red disclaimer afterall (though in smaller font!) as I started here, we see life differently. :)

Cheers!
 
We see life differently. I enjoy reading this forum, the responsiveness of everyone here, almost universally positive, typically in good humor, and always generous, is truly inspiring. You may very well fall into that category as well on other posts, but this one, well I didn't see it. I don't monitor (clearly) the names here- I am a noob poster after all as you correctly pointed out. Your thread seemed insensitive to those who may not have the same writing skill set as yourself. I don't intend to beat anyone up over their grammar or spelling acumen (and yes, there are some atrocious errors!). Thus my comments back to you. Sorry to offend your sensibilities, you did add a red disclaimer afterall (though in smaller font!) as I started here, we see life differently. :)

Cheers!

I'm not Yuri, the opening poster of this thread, I'm Pappers_ . Please look at the usernames to the left of each post to figure out who you are responding too.

I read Yuri's opening post as positive. Your post responding to him, on the other hand, was borderline belligerent. I responded in a light hearted way, because you are new to HBT.

Being more direct now, please keep these points in mind:

1) don't be belligerent towards other members including but not limited to namecalling

2) try to respond to the person you intend

3) do not harrass the moderators - when Yuri (a moderator) posts a simple request, treat it as a rule to follow, do not tell him to leave.
 
Quick question guys. In the original post, it says "Fermenter (not fermentor)." I looked that up a while back and as a result have been using "Fermentor" to describe a fermentation vessel. All of the definitions that I've found state that fermenter refers to the microorganism that carries out fermentation and fermentor refers to the fermentation vessel itself. So is the information that I found wrong or am I just missing the point of the original post?
 
Quick question guys. In the original post, it says "Fermenter (not fermentor)." I looked that up a while back and as a result have been using "Fermentor" to describe a fermentation vessel. All of the definitions that I've found state that fermenter refers to the microorganism that carries out fermentation and fermentor refers to the fermentation vessel itself. So is the information that I found wrong or am I just missing the point of the original post?

No, I think the vessels we ferment in are called fermenters. A quick look on the interwebs confirms that - manufacturers and sellers of these vessels call them fermenters.
 
No, I think the vessels we ferment in are called fermenters. A quick look on the interwebs confirms that - manufacturers and sellers of these vessels call them fermenters.

Yes, and something that ferments is a fermentor. Like if someone is tormenting you, they are your tormentor. "or" at the end of a word is generally the agent doing something.
 
No, I think the vessels we ferment in are called fermenters. A quick look on the interwebs confirms that - manufacturers and sellers of these vessels call them fermenters.

That's true.....but the dictionarys don't and that's why I was confused as to what the "correct" term actually was.

Edit. The oxford dictionary defines fermenter as a fermentation vessel, but that's the only one I could find. The rest of them, including webster define it the way I first posted. Sounds like it's a grey area in the older dictionarys and popular terminology has evolved. I guess they need to update the dictionarys. I'll switch back to fermenter.

Cheers
 
fermenter (not fermentor)

No, I think the vessels we ferment in are called fermenters. A quick look on the interwebs confirms that - manufacturers and sellers of these vessels call them fermenters.

Yes, and something that ferments is a fermentor. Like if someone is tormenting you, they are your tormentor. "or" at the end of a word is generally the agent doing something.

I'll disagree with all of you and call the container the fermentor, and the person the fermenter. I'm not critizing the logic shown above, but when two brewing leaders come out and address the nomenclature we use, and explicity set the standard, I follow. It might not make perfect sense, or strictly follow any logic, but a de facto standard is better than none at all.

Chris White and Jamil Zainascheff in the introduction to Yeast say this:

fementor vs fermentor.jpg
 
I did not remember reading that in Yeast - maybe I skipped over it ;)

Here are some links to the usage I noted above - fermenter as the vessel:

http://morebeer.com/category/conical-fermenters.html
http://conical-fermenter.com/
https://brewmagic.com/product/brew-magic-fermenter/
http://www.midwestsupplies.com/6-5-gallon-plastic-fermenter-with-lid.html
http://www.ssbrewtech.com/products/brewbucket

I think its fair to say fermenter as fermentation vessel is a common usage. Apologies to White and Zanisheff. I'm not sure which dictionaries they are referring to, but not, apparently, the Oxford English dictionary http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/fermenter?q=fermenter
 
I think its fair to say fermenter as fermentation vessel is a common usage. Apologies to White and Zanisheff. I'm not sure which dictionaries they are referring to, but not, apparently, the Oxford English dictionary http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/fermenter?q=fermenter

Bah, nobody goes by the OED anymore. Check the urban slang dictionary (j/k).

I went to stout tanks, makers of large professional stainless tanks, and they use fermenter for the tanks, agreeing with you Pappers.

However...

Blichmann and Northern Brewer call them all fermentors: http://www.blichmannengineering.com/products/fermenator

http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/...g-equipment/big-mouth-bubbler-6-5-gallon.html

John Palmer agrees with Jamil and White and Blichmann and NB: http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter8-5.html

And this addresses the difference directly, although I don't claim this is a verifiable source of information: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Diffence_between_fermenter_and_fermentor?#slide=1

I guess we'll just have to conclude that there is no real standard, and the internet is full of both. In 10 years it will definitely be settled. For now, I'm going to continue using the one that is published.
 

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