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Old 01-21-2014, 05:56 PM   #11
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Actually has nothing to do with genes. All taste buds are structured exactly the same...it comes down to a person to person variance in the way the taste receptors are grouped and the way our daily experience changes / breaks them down over time
This is getting OT, but the above is simply wrong. Taste and smell receptors fall into two classes (ion channels versus g-protein coupled receptors), but within each group are dozens of receptors. There are ~60 taste-specific receptors, and an additional ~900! that serve dual-purpose taste/smell functions. These genes are among the most highly polymorphic of human genes (fancy way of saying there are all sorts of variants of these genes floating around the human population). A large number of differences in the ability to taste (& smell) specific compounds have been linked to polymorphisms (mutations) in these genes.

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Old 01-21-2014, 07:13 PM   #12
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I agree. Lambic tastes like vomit.

I do like a nice barnyard beer, as long as it isn't too tart, which for me is practically zero.

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So if papaya tastes like vomit to you, would a lambic also taste like vomit? Just asking because papaya tastes and smells like vomit to me, but not to other members of my family. I've never had a lambic and don't really want to try one if I'm going to get the same taste as a papaya. Do they both have the same chemical compounds that give the same smell/taste?

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I know little about sour beers, but I do know that lots of things that tasted awful as a snot nosed kid who thought he knew everything (including beer in general) are now the things I like most. Seems like one of the keys to enjoying life is knowing more about it.

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I agree. Lambic tastes like vomit.

I do like a nice barnyard beer, as long as it isn't too tart, which for me is practically zero.
Ah, the barnyard beer. You mean a brett beer? I went looking for a brett beer, didn't find any. I suppose it would help if I knew exactly what I was looking for. Name, brand, etc. I would love to taste a brett beer to see if it is something I would like to explore in my home brewing.
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Sour beers are much like IPAs in that there typically is an acquired taste. I would probably not have recommended the Cuvee as a 1st sour. I would recommend Monk's Cafe or anything by Liefman's.

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Every time this thread pops up, I think of one of the joke youtube videos on beer reviewing where the guy says, "This is horribly infected. Unless it's a lambic. Then it's awesome."

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Ah, the barnyard beer. You mean a brett beer? I went looking for a brett beer, didn't find any. I suppose it would help if I knew exactly what I was looking for. Name, brand, etc. I would love to taste a brett beer to see if it is something I would like to explore in my home brewing.
The headbrewer at New Holland gave a presentation on water at a Homebrewers seminar a few years back and he brought some stuff from their "Basement". Unlabeled in 22 ouncers with cork and cage.

He mentioned Brett and barnyard, and it was my first experience. It was interesting and I finished my friend's sample when he didn't like it.

Then I tried Lambic at the Michigan Brewers Guild's Winter Beer Festival the first year it was at Fifth Third Ballpark. Nearly gagged and puked.

The next vendor felt pity for me and rinsed my glass out and poured a nice IIPA quickly to wash that nasty taste out of my mouth.
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Epic Brewing's Elder Brett has barnyard funk and no sour.

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I've had a few sours I've really enjoyed and a few I've hated. For me, the more 'vinegary' it tastes, the better I like it.

Overall, I think that people are hard-wired for certain tastes. Whether it's genetic or not, I can't say, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I think the sours theory also applies to Belgians. You either love them or you hate them. I have a visceral reaction to them. It's not even a taste as much as a feeling I get in the back of my throat when I drink one. I've tried, but I can't get over it.

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