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Old 03-18-2010, 12:28 AM   #11
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Guinness is less "stout" than Budweiser.

Guinness abv 4.0 cal 123
Bud abv.4.3 cal 143
BJCP guidelines for a dry stout:

Aroma: Coffee-like roasted barley and roasted malt aromas are prominent; may have slight chocolate, cocoa and/or grainy secondary notes. Esters medium-low to none. No diacetyl. Hop aroma low to none.

Appearance: Jet black to deep brown with garnet highlights in color. Can be opaque (if not, it should be clear). A thick, creamy, long-lasting, tan- to brown-colored head is characteristic.

Flavor: Moderate roasted, grainy sharpness, optionally with light to moderate acidic sourness, and medium to high hop bitterness. Dry, coffee-like finish from roasted grains. May have a bittersweet or unsweetened chocolate character in the palate, lasting into the finish. Balancing factors may include some creaminess, medium-low to no fruitiness, and medium to no hop flavor. No diacetyl.

Mouthfeel: Medium-light to medium-full body, with a creamy character. Low to moderate carbonation. For the high hop bitterness and significant proportion of dark grains present, this beer is remarkably smooth. The perception of body can be affected by the overall gravity with smaller beers being lighter in body. May have a light astringency from the roasted grains, although harshness is undesirable.

Overall Impression: A very dark, roasty, bitter, creamy ale.

Comments: This is the draught version of what is otherwise known as Irish stout or Irish dry stout. Bottled versions are typically brewed from a significantly higher OG and may be designated as foreign extra stouts (if sufficiently strong). While most commercial versions rely primarily on roasted barley as the dark grain, others use chocolate malt, black malt or combinations of the three. The level of bitterness is somewhat variable, as is the roasted character and the dryness of the finish; allow for interpretation by brewers.

History: The style evolved from attempts to capitalize on the success of London porters, but originally reflected a fuller, creamier, more “stout” body and strength. When a brewery offered a stout and a porter, the stout was always the stronger beer (it was originally called a “Stout Porter”). Modern versions are brewed from a lower OG and no longer reflect a higher strength than porters.

Ingredients: The dryness comes from the use of roasted unmalted barley in addition to pale malt, moderate to high hop bitterness, and good attenuation. Flaked unmalted barley may also be used to add creaminess. A small percentage (perhaps 3%) of soured beer is sometimes added for complexity (generally by Guinness only). Water typically has moderate carbonate hardness, although high levels will not give the classic dry finish.

Vital Statistics: OG: 1.036 – 1.050
IBUs: 30 – 45 FG: 1.007 – 1.011
SRM: 25 – 40 ABV: 4 – 5%

Commercial Examples: Guinness Draught Stout (also canned), Murphy's Stout, Beamish Stout, O’Hara’s Celtic Stout, Russian River O.V.L. Stout, Three Floyd’s Black Sun Stout, Dorothy Goodbody’s Wholesome Stout, Orkney Dragonhead Stout, Old Dominion Stout, Goose Island Dublin Stout, Brooklyn Dry Stout
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Well, maybe I should have left the BMC part out. The Guinness tasted real "chemically". Kind of like paint thinner smells. Maybe we got a bad batch?
Hey, I like a good BMC myself, and am not too much a snob to admit it, but Guinness is just fine. A nice drop if I may say so any day of the week.

Perhaps you did just get a bad bottle or batch.
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Hmmm I never get a chemical taste in Guinness. It has slight sourness to it and sometimes I get a metalic taste in it but it is my fav commercial beer. I myself cant name many beers I have bought or made that kept me comming back like Guinness.
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Well, maybe I should have left the BMC part out. The Guinness tasted real "chemically". Kind of like paint thinner smells. Maybe we got a bad batch?
Like paint thinner? Yeah, I'd say you got a bad batch. It's a pretty good standard, a bit thinner than you'd expect but with good flavor and aroma.
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Did you have it on tap or in the bottle/can? Bottle/can is quite undrinkable....but properly poured from the tap... Nectar of the Gods....
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I first tried Guinness early in my beer drinking career, didn't like it. After a few more....one of my favorites! Give it a chance to grow on you.
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I don't really care for Guinness either. It doesn't taste bad to me, it just doesn't really TASTE to me. Kinda like if you took a good stout and seriously watered it down. Not a bad taste, just not much there at all.
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I have had Guinness Extra Stout that has been bad and not very drinkable. I have not had any on tap or the widget bottles/cans that tasted bad.

Sorry you did not like it. I love me some Guinness.
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I don't really care for Guinness either. It doesn't taste bad to me, it just doesn't really TASTE to me. Kinda like if you took a good stout and seriously watered it down. Not a bad taste, just not much there at all.
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I'm a bigger fan of the Guinness Extra Stout than the Guinness Draught.
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