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Old 06-22-2011, 12:55 AM   #1
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Default good article on hops

here it is:
http://www.mrmalty.com/late_hopping.php

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Old 06-22-2011, 04:39 AM   #2
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great article. thanks!

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Old 06-22-2011, 12:30 PM   #3
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What an excellent article! I know a technique I'm going to try in my next batch!

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Old 06-22-2011, 02:09 PM   #4
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It looks like my theories about late additions vs dry hopping were right! Thanks for the link! I love it when something I think up comes out this good. A vindication of sorts. I did that with the APA we're enjoying now. Got a few cases of it,& my wife's Krystallwit saved for the 4th.
What the late additions do is put the malt flavors in front,toned by some of the light bitterness of the aroma/flavor hops used. Quickly followed by the flavors of the hops themselves. Aromas are light,but present.
I've also noticed that,so far,the malt/hops flavors & aromas are improving with the o2 absorbing caps I used,rather than beginning to fade.
I'm saving that article for future reference & musing. Thanks again!
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:14 PM   #5
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So if your first hop addition is at 20 minutes left in the boil, is there any reason to boil the traditional 60 minutes? In other words, can the entire boil be reduced to 20 minutes?

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Old 06-22-2011, 07:42 PM   #6
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^ good question I say no as long as your water is adjusted and DMS is a non issue. Try it and let me know.
This technique looks expensive for an IPA. But it might be the only way to get that fresh hops in your face aroma.

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Old 06-22-2011, 08:40 PM   #7
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TFP. That Evil Twin recipe looks interesting!

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My boil is a total of 25 minutes or so,from the time I dump half the DME in the boiling water to the time I take it off the heat for the 10 min hop steep addition. And since I use pre-hopped cooper's cans as a base,60 minutes isn't needed. I do hop additions at 20mins,10mins,& -10. After the steep,I add the remaining half of the dme,& the cooper's can.
I use all kinds of different dme's with the cooper's OS lager & OS draught with different hops to create something totally different from the original.
This is possible since cooper's Original Series have only a clean bittering addition with Pride of Ringwood hops. Their flavors aren't bad,but they (OS series),always seem to need some help. Sometimes I think Cooper's designed them to be experimented with,so folks would keep coming back.
Anyway,late hop additions are where IPA's & other styles with "hops on the back" get their flavor profiles from. Mine included.
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A 60+ minute boil is good for creating hot break and making a clearer wort as well as eliminating the precursors to DMS

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So if your first hop addition is at 20 minutes left in the boil, is there any reason to boil the traditional 60 minutes? In other words, can the entire boil be reduced to 20 minutes?
For AG you'll have to use enough water to get respectable efficiency. That has to be boiled off to meet the correct OG. They also mention this in their recipe:
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While you could go with a shorter boil, the 90 minute boil enhances the blood-red color. It also adds a touch more melanoidin and caramel notes.
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