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Old 11-15-2009, 08:07 PM   #1
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Default A funny thing happened at the LHB

Has anyone else had the experience that their local HB guys either tell them or you over hear them tell someone else, 'Yeah, this beer will be done in two weeks - just put it in the primary for a week, check the gravity, when it is done it is done, keg or bottle and you will be consuming right away'... I'm paraphrasing of course but the idea should convey, they want to make you think beer does not need to age like the wine they also sell. The guy in front of me was buying a brewer's best Nut Brown ale and the LHB guy was telling him he could be drinking it in about 3 weeks. 3 weeks! Mine would be just coming out of the primary in 3 weeks going for at least another 2-3 weeks in bottles before drinking.

I suppose they do this to sell kits but I believe that ultimately telling people the truth about proper brewing techniques will actually sell more beer.

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Old 11-15-2009, 08:18 PM   #2
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Depending on a lot of factors, one could ferment for 10 days and then bottle for 10 days. Maybe the full carbonation wouldn't be reached, but they would be drinking it. I usually do two weeks in the primary and then two weeks in the bottles before I start drinking. But like I said that depends on a lot of factors. If the guy was buying a RIS kit it may be a different story.

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Old 11-15-2009, 08:30 PM   #3
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Netflyer I am fairly new at brewing. But I can tell you my last AG batch of Nut Brown, hit the FG in about a week and a half. I used a starter on it, I have no idea if this had any affect on it. I will have to try doing it without and see. I tranfered it to secondary to free up my carboy. I cold crashed it for about 4 days an put it in the keg, force carb, and was drinking it that night. It taste great and looks great! I have had several people tell me how good it is. Do I think letting it age a while would help it? Who knows, I am happy with the way it is now.

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Those kits are designed to be OK in a few weeks. On the other hand, one local did a RIS is a week - boil to kegger.

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Netflyer I am fairly new at brewing. But I can tell you my last AG batch of Nut Brown, hit the FG in about a week and a half. I used a starter on it, I have no idea if this had any affect on it. I will have to try doing it without and see. I tranfered it to secondary to free up my carboy. I cold crashed it for about 4 days an put it in the keg, force carb, and was drinking it that night. It taste great and looks great! I have had several people tell me how good it is. Do I think letting it age a while would help it? Who knows, I am happy with the way it is now.
You force carbed it which knocks 3 weeks off the time it takes. I'm assuming the gent buying the kit at the LHBS did not having kegging capabilities as it's not normally a newbie thing to have.
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I find the difference between a good beer and a great beer has a LOT to do with patience

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Old 11-15-2009, 09:31 PM   #7
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Default I agree entirely

I think, as you said, the difference between a good brew and a great brew is patience... couldn't have said it better.

Now this is not to say you can't enjoy 'green' beer. I'm sure we all do :-)

If you wait 3 weeks in the primary and then 3 weeks in the bottles and then 3 days in the fridge you could have the clearest, best brew you ever tasted

Btw, that Nut Brown kit falls in around 1.054 OG...

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Does kegging (I'm a bottler) knock of the 'bottle conditioning' too? I mean I can see how you can carb in a few days but the whole idea of conditioning is for the various aspects of the brew to blend and settle...

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I just brewed a bitter last Sunday and expect to be drinking it on Wednesday - 10 days. Used WY1968 which ferments completely and drops clear after 48 hours - about 3 days for diacetyl/acetaldehyde uptake and then carbonation. Even if I were to bottle, it would only be about 14 days.

This is, of course, a special case, but if the beer's good, drink it. Breweries/brew pubs routinely pump out beer in short order.

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Does kegging (I'm a bottler) knock of the 'bottle conditioning' too? I mean I can see how you can carb in a few days but the whole idea of conditioning is for the various aspects of the brew to blend and settle...
Quite right. Bottle or a keg is the same thing when it comes to conditioning. If a beer is good green it will be great conditioned with some obvious exceptions. Some wheats and wits still taste better conditioned but to each their own.
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