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Old 02-12-2010, 09:04 PM   #21
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So are you agreeing with me that you can carry alcohol on a flight or did you do a poor job of reading the conversation?
In my experience, you can't carry a bottle on, example:

I bought a duty-free bottle of grey goose before a flight to Slovakia to give as a gift to somebody putting us up in Bratislava. The duty free shop packaged it up and made sure it was on the plane. I never got to touch it after purchase until I exited the plane.

This is just my experience, which I inquired about and was told flatly that alcoholic beverages cannot be carried by the passenger onto the plane. My comment above regarding the sealed bags was from another flight where I witnessed sealed duty-free bags being gathered at the gate by the flight attendants.
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:26 PM   #22
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Before the liquid restrictions I carried on a full growler of some Austrian beer

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Old 02-12-2010, 09:43 PM   #23
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The duty free shop packaged it up and made sure it was on the plane. I never got to touch it after purchase until I exited the plane.

This is just my experience, which I inquired about and was told flatly that alcoholic beverages cannot be carried by the passenger onto the plane. My comment above regarding the sealed bags was from another flight where I witnessed sealed duty-free bags being gathered at the gate by the flight attendants.

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That is what I see on every trip.
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:19 PM   #24
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TSA doesn't just "take stuff" without a reason. I suspect there is more to these cigars that you care to admit.

Your second comment is also flat out wrong.
That's hilarious! Government employees are far too honest to steal?
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Old 02-15-2010, 03:41 AM   #25
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Alright guys, well I just got back home from a weekend of Mardi Gras in Houston and Galveston!

I scored one of Saint Arnold's single batch one time release beers (Divine Reserve #9) off some guy I met on Facebook. I drank one, stored 2 at my family's house, and brought back 3 with me.

I went to check my bag with the 3 beers wrapped tightly in some towels and clothes I had. I got up to the desk and let the nice lady know I was flying with beer and wanted to stick a fragile sticker on there. Right off the bat she told "not to let her know" and this worried me. She told me they had to be "specially wrapped" otherwise she wasn't allowed to let me fly with it. She was going to let me just pass by without the special wrapping, but it was only $5 bucks for this protective "wine bag" and all 3 of my beers fitted nicely in it. The logic behind this is that if the bottles somehow break they wouldn't leak onto my clothes or anyone's stuff. The bag was essentially a normal plastic bag with the heavy duty inflated plastic bags to absorb shock. To me, the $5 bucks was worth it. I flew on Southwest Airlines.

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She told me you might get your bottles taken up, depending on the bag checker if they aren't in the proper protective bag. They sell them at the bag check counter for $5. These bags easily fit (3) 12 oz beers, possibly more.

I wouldn't risk it, as these people don't give a **** because they will never see you again. The $5 is worth it.

Make sure to ask for a "fragile" sticker. It can't hurt.

Drinking good beer before flying can make the time fly by all the more quickly. Though, it sucks when you have to pee badly and you can't get up because the plane is waiting to take off or is taking off.

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Old 02-15-2010, 05:10 AM   #26
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I'm my experience putting a Fragile sticker at best makes no difference and at worst inspires some baggage handlers to deliberately bounce your bag across the tarmac a few times. Red rag to a bull.

I checked in some 22oz bottles recently to Costa Rica. Just some bubble wrap, nothing else. No problems. Will be doing the same to Scotland in a couple of weeks (homebrew this time). I don't expect any problems. Anything you want to bring into the cabin as hand luggage on the other hand... if in any doubt don't do it. Your friendly (I'm being sarcastic) TSA official doesn't give a stuff if you're going to miss your flight while you answer some thorough questions. Flying just fills me with dread these days. Quiz. How do airlines refer to passengers these days?

- a. Vertically-stack freight.
- b. Self-loading freight.

The answer is, pathetically, both a and b.

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Old 02-15-2010, 09:13 AM   #27
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I have had liquor, beer, and wine shipped internationally and nationally via FedEx/UPS and airlines numerous times without problems and legally. The most frustrating thing is that I have had bottles of rare liquors opened up and an ounce taken off the top more than once. I have complained in the past and am always assured they do that as part of randomized testing.

Albeit, two years ago, when flying from Europe, I came back with an 80 year old bottle of Madeira. When I arrived in the states, the seal had been broken and a third of the bottle was cleanly extracted. It had been in a special box, on its own, checked separately, sealed, well taken care of. Long story short, I raised hell with TSA who ultimately paid me for the cost of the bottle - so it is doable, but it took more effort than it was probably worth.

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I do not think that carrying alcohol on board is legal. No problem with checked luggage though. It will require TSA to open your bag to inspect it and see if there is anything good inside. I do not think TSA is there to enforce FAA requirements just security requirements and steal your stuff.

The prohibition of alcohol is an FAA issue. I do not have the Federal Aviation Regulations with me and not positive on this but I am pretty sure it is there. I do know:

You are not allowed to allow anyone who appears intoxicated onboard, any airplane, not even commercial flights.

The aircraft crew is responsible for ensuring for passenger behavior and control. This something taken very seriously and a rowdy passenger will cause a plane to be diverted and the passenger will be greeted by Marshals upon landing. Letting people travel without shampoo but bringing 3 airplane bottles instead does not seem like a good way to go about crowd control.

If you have a pilots badge and a uniform you can bring whatever you want onboard as long as it is not a weapon. Even with this outfit they took away my nail clippers once. I however have not tested their flexibility of this rule by carrying on alcohol as it would not look good if my suitcase was opened and I was standing there in uniform with a corny keg in my suitcase.

On the other end of the spectrum. UPS sends wine all the time. I am sure beer would work as well.

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I am not sure if taking liquor on board a plane is so much illegal as not allowed. Most of the things the FAA does not allow on board, to my limited knowledge (IANAL), are "not allowed" but there is no accompanying misdemeanor/felony if you were to carry it on. Not that it is a good idea to do so, as TSA agents will make you wish it was a crime by the time they are done with you.

As for shipping alcohol, the legality of it is essentially random. That is, it depends entirely on the state sending and state receiving. Companies like UPS have pretty good guidelines on this, but they are not always correct or up to date.

TSA: http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1189.shtm

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Carrying Alcohol In Your Checked Baggage

Please note, you can’t take alcoholic beverages with more than 70% alcohol content (140 proof), including 95% grain alcohol and 150 proof rum, in your checked luggage.

You may take up to five liters of alcohol with alcohol content between 24% and 70% per person as checked luggage if it’s packaged in a sealable bottle or flask.

Alcoholic beverages with less than 24% alcohol content are not subject to hazardous materials regulations.
State shipping laws regarding wine:
http://www.wineinstitute.org/initiat...teshippinglaws

Military Site with Information:
http://www.hqusareur.army.mil/opm/state.htm

Whatever you do, don't ship it via USPS:
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11.7 Intoxicating Liquor

A potable beverage is nonmailable if it is of 0.5% or more alcoholic content by weight, which is taxable under Chapter 51, Internal Revenue Service Code. The product may be mailed if it conforms to applicable requirements of the Internal Revenue Service and Food and Drug Administration and is not an alcoholic beverage, poisonous, or flammable.
Great article on USAToday showing the laws back in 2004:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...hol-policy.htm

And, the rules change completely if you are shipping alcohol internationally.

Internationally, just be clear it is for personal use:
http://www.ttb.gov/importers/personal_importation.shtml

Or you can always call your ABC and ask:
http://www.ttb.gov/wine/control_board.shtml Which is probably the best idea, they should have information on beer also.

And, supposedly, but I didn't find anything on it other than people telling this to each other and a few fed sites mentioning it is doable sometimes ... in a few states, you can ship direct between people, so long as the box is clearly marked: "ADULTS ONLY, GIFT, CONTAINS ALCOHOL" and it is truly a gift.

Whatever it is. I get alcohol through the mail fairly regularly - but under my state's legal limits and usually from an appropriate shipper (unless it's a gift or sent by myself to myself).
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:35 AM   #30
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I fly for a living. I take my homebrew with me many times, and bring beers rangeing from 12 oz to bombers to belgians I bought over seas back home. I always pack them in my spare socks and use undershirts to stick around them. Never once have I had a problem, and never once have I had one break. I get the nice "TSA has checked your bag" inserts all the time, but all the beers have been there when I unpack in a hotel or back at home. I've never told the counter people but then again, they dont need to know.
And no, you cant bring them onto the plane in your carry on luggage

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