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Old 07-27-2012, 04:41 AM   #1
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Default First Wheat Honey Beer - Feedback Please

would love some feedback on my new recipe, trying to make a wheat honey beer. Thinking of adding 1/2lb of honey at the end of boil.

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.46 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.46 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.60 gal
Estimated OG: 1.054 SG
Estimated Color: 6.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 22.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 75.6 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
4 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Ale Malt 2-Row (Briess) (3.5 SRM) Grain 1 45.0 %
4 lbs 8.0 oz Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 45.0 %
12.0 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 3 7.5 %
4.0 oz Caramel Malt - 20L (Briess) (20.0 SRM) Grain 4 2.5 %
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - First Wort 15.0 m Hop 5 18.9 IBUs
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 6 -
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 3.8 IBUs
2.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast 8 -


Mash Schedule: My Medium Profile (2qt/lb)
Total Grain Weight: 10 lbs
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Name Description Step Temperatur Step Time
Mash In Add 21.00 qt of water at 161.1 F 152.0 F 60 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun, , 2.66gal) of 168.0 F water

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Old 07-27-2012, 05:24 AM   #2
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Looks pretty good to me! Honey malt and a little but not too much actual honey should work well, I would think. Although if I were doing an American wheat with a neutral yeast I'd probably do the whole coriander/orange peel thing to keep it from being too plain/boring. But that's just me!

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Old 07-27-2012, 05:57 AM   #3
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I'd do a bit more wheat and a bit more honey malt (and some actual honey), and probably drop the caramel if it were me.

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Old 07-27-2012, 06:00 AM   #4
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Good feedback, I was thinking of using a hefe yeast to get esters into the brew to help spice it up. How woud you suggest i use the coriander/orange peel?

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Personally, I think you have a lot going on in this beer. To me, 1/2 lb honey malt is a little overpowering (in the sweetness department) so i'd either drop to 1/2 lb honey malt or drop the caramel (probably both, if I was brewing). Replacing the caramel with a darker cara-munich would be awesome also, if you're feeling adventurous. Your yeast and hops choices look spot-on, in my opinion.

For a beer with this much going on, I think a clean ale yeast would be best (the one you selected is perfect)- a wheat beer yeast would just muddy the waters further. Of course, this is just one kid's opinion. If you do not BIAB, but use a cooler MLT or some other method, you should grab some rice hulls to improve lautering. Lots of wheat malt can cause stuck mashes/sparges which result in low efficiency.

Also: regarding your yeast choice: 1056 is the same strain as Safale US-05 dry yeast, so consider using that, it's extremely easy to find- every LHBS should have it. If you rehydrate that dry yeast according to the manufacturers instructions, you won't need to use two packages and will save a bit of money. Overall the beer looks great, with your choices I don't think you need any witbier type flavorings like orange peel or coriander.

Many may disagree, but I think you've designed quite a nice beer here. Take all suggestions with a grain of salt. My first recipe was extremely well-researched, but strongly criticized here. That beer has won me more awards in my short career than any other I've brewed. Have fun with it!

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Thanks daksin, if i remove the honey malt, where would the beer gets it honey flavor from? Good point on the rice hulls, have not done a lot of wheat beer till now.

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Keep the honey malt if you want honey flavor.

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I would bring the honey malt down to 1/4 lb and use 1 lb honey. I would also mash in the upper 140's and make this a very dry beer. You can use cascade for aroma if you want, but I had success with .5oz Willamette and 0.5oz Liberty.

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Oh, I just meant I would reduce it if I were making it- didn't mean to imply you should drop it. Honey malt is definitely the way to go for honey-flavored beers.

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6oz of honey malt is enough and i would not put any actual honey in at all.

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