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Old 01-24-2012, 05:00 PM   #21
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Had to bump this one,as a buddy & I on here are researching the drink of our ancestors called tizwin,pronounced tizween. Kiowa,Apache,& Commanche are all of the athabascan people who crossed the bearing straight land bridge into North America some 35,000 years ago. tiswin is the mexican native counterpart of the drink that used corn & cactus,or North American aloe bulb sliced,roasted,& boiled.
The corn beer our ancestors new was dried on the stalk,then soaked till sprouted,& dried in the sun. Then ground (I think cracking it in a mill would be interesting) Boiled till reduced about 50%. Then cold water added to that. It was then dumped in a barrel,& the process repeated till the barrel was full.
We're wondering what sort of lambic yeast to use to ferment it in the modern context??? Still waiting for answers from Midwest,but we've def got their interest. We just wanna pit bbq some food,drink Tizwin,& speak of the old ones. Kinda our way of honoring our ancestors with something unknown to the white side of our family.


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anahtaho wahtassa may! (It doesn't get any better than this!)....what he said! We have the urge to produce the old drink. Anybody have any input to aid us in our search for information? It'll be appreciated and acted upon.
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how cool is this:

"First, they soaked the corn overnight in water. They dug a long trench and lined it with grass, placed the soaked corn in the trench, and covered it with another layer of grass. Sometimes they covered the whole with earth or a blanket. After sprinkling the corn with water morning and evening for ten days, during which it sprouted, they took it out, ground it with their grinding stones (mano and metate), and the boiled it for five hours. Finally, they strained off the liquid and set it aside. After about twenty-four hours, when it stopped bubbling, it was ready to drink." (From Geronimo by Angie Debo, p. 22)
That's how I remember my Granpa doing it, when I was about 8. Yes, it is a mild drunk with a hell of a hangover. Gramma was PO'd! But, Granpa showed me an "Old Way" thru this process...
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Old 01-25-2012, 12:09 AM   #24
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I was wondering also,that another link described a similar drink to Tizwin that had spices added to it that was said to resemble an English beer. Columbus' log,I think...Gotta look at my e-mail again. It was a few page exerpt from another book.


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