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HenryHill 09-02-2009 06:55 PM

Fermented Cactus Juice?
 
The movie 'Hombre', Paul Newman-1967.

In it, some pendehos were harassing some Indians quietly drinking their mescal in a bar. The pendehos were questioning them about their beverage and one said it isn't acceptable for Indians being in bar drinking, they must have got their courage from drinking a 'cactus juice'; something that sounded like 'tiswah'.

Google don't know no 'tiswah'. :(

WTF is this stuff and how is it spelled?

david_42 09-02-2009 07:24 PM

Un-distilled Tequila, maybe?

olllllo 09-02-2009 07:28 PM

Pulque? Pulque - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Freezeblade 09-02-2009 07:43 PM

It's gotta be Pulque, man, that stuff's vile, but apparently it's an aquired taste.

chelero 09-02-2009 08:23 PM

pulque is amazing when you get it fresh. it's sweet and refreshing, almost like a honey flavored water. problem is, it doesn't take long for it to go sour. so, after more than about 24 hrs or so, it just takes like sour orange juice. so obvious it doesn't travel well, and alot of times people blend it with fruit juice (pineapple, orange, etc) to take that edge off, but imo by then it just tastes rank. but the fresh stuff, oh man is that gooood. and since it's like drinking water, it sneaks up on ya like crazy!

HenryHill 09-02-2009 09:05 PM

I know of pulque, but they called this 'tiswah', and it was old west Indians-not Mexico or Central America.

And they disitinctly called it 'cactus juice'.

I figured some of you desert members would have heard of it.

Hard to google it when I can't literally spell it, only phonetically spell it. :P

McKBrew 09-02-2009 09:15 PM

How about Agave which I just learned is not a cactus although it's commonly mis-construed to be one? Maybe that's what they were alluding to.

I've seen beer and mead recipes with agave.

Agave - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nevermind, apparently Agave is used for Pulque.

AZ_IPA 09-02-2009 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Hill (Post 1523009)

[snip]...'tiswah'.....[/snip]
Hard to google it when I can't literally spell it, only phonetically spell it. :P

I had read about "tiswin" in some books about Cochise and Geronimo and asked some of my Apache friends about it, they called it "corn beer."

Wiki says it's also the Tohono-O'odham make it with saguaro fruit

Tiswin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

david_42 09-02-2009 09:38 PM

Interesting. I lived in Tucson (Sonoran Desert) for two years and never heard of it. Prickly pear wine, yes. Maybe they don't share, since it's sacred.

HenryHill 09-02-2009 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZ_IPA (Post 1523069)
I had read about "tiswin" in some books about Cochise and Geronimo and asked some of my Apache friends about it, they called it "corn beer."

Wiki says it's also the Tohono-O'odham make it with saguaro fruit

Tiswin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sounds awfully close-I think you are on to something, there.:)

Seems to have two meanings-a corn drink by pueblos,and a saguaro drink from the Apaches.


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