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Old 01-29-2013, 09:58 PM   #1
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I've been struggling to identify a very specific off flavor that is my plaguing brews and starting to really hammer my enthusiasm.

My troubleshooting process as gone from looking at contamination, chlorine in my water, not properly rinsing PBW from carboy, pitching too little yeast, and fermenting at too high a temp.

Having addressed all of these issues, my latest thought is oxidation. Before I dive into an all out war on oxygen, I'd like to get some reliable feedback that the flavor I'm experiencing is indeed oxidation. Unfortunately, I'm the only craft beer drinker in my circle, and the only (wannabe) homebrewer I know.

My primary question is - is it unethical, or even just bad form to send a brew to competition that you know tastes awful? Having no interest in winning only looking for feedback. Are there BJCP type evaluations that are not tied to competition? Other thoughts?

Thanks in advance!!!

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Old 01-29-2013, 10:06 PM   #2
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I would find a local brewery and ask one of the brewers to taste it for you and help identify the off flavor. BTW, oxidation causes a wet cardboard taste. Other ideas, local LHBS or search for the nearest homebrew club. I wouldn't waste my time and money entering a contest. Just look around and you should be able to find someone close by. Good luck.

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Old 01-29-2013, 10:07 PM   #3
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Will a LHBS allow tasting? Our local shop will gladly sample and quickly critique a brew. I see Homebrew Heaven isn't far from your location. I can't comment on the ethics of sending to a competition, having never submitted to one. Is the beer drinkable, or awful? Kyle

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Ive done this with my LHBS with a beer I thought had an off flavor....they were great help.

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have you posted a description on here?Maybe someone can help you.

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Will a LHBS allow tasting? Our local shop will gladly sample and quickly critique a brew. I see Homebrew Heaven isn't far from your location. I can't comment on the ethics of sending to a competition, having never submitted to one. Is the beer drinkable, or awful? Kyle
My wife says its awful...my mother says its the best beer she's ever had
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No problem sending in a flawed beer to competitions - happens all the time. You will get at least two opinions about your beer back.

Aside from your local brewers and LHBS, you might also ask some folks here whose opinions you respect if they would taste your beer for you, if you sent it to them.

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It happens all the time, thanks for asking. Judges are trained to give constructive criticism. We don’t want to discourage anyone. If we can help you make better beer, that’s better for everyone.

If you can get feedback closer to home, that’s great. Consider the source, though. Everybody likes free beer, it takes a friend to give you an honest critique.

We’re all in this together. You know, homebrewers.

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Here is link to a homebrew club that appear to be forming near you: http://beeradvocate.com/community/th...ew-crew.21360/

Maybe they can taste it and help you out.

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I would look for the local options first - LHBS, Brewpub, Brew club. Or, maybe put out a call right here on the forum for an experienced judge - send them your beer you have problems with, and a couple other local microbrews to compensate them for their efforts - would still be cheaper than sending to a comp. And, you would likely get way better feedback if you sent it to a judge with the express knowledge that you realize there is something wrong with it, and you would like some help.

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