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11-07-2011, 08:53 PM
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Ethics?
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I was at my local watering hole today and asked the owner if they had any empty kegs for sale. She stated that she had an empty sanke keg that the company had not picked up for over 3 months... She offered it to me me for 30 bucks(cost of the deposit)... She also said she has been calling the company for over 90 days to pick it up with no response... I am going to buy this keg regardless... just wanted to know if it was ethical or not...
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11-07-2011, 08:56 PM
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Hey, if they don't want it after multiple calls, it's yours for $30.
Not that it matters anyway if the keg says AB on it. 
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11-07-2011, 08:58 PM
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Not AB on it... It was of a local brewery... just can't remember the name at this time. Will let u know tomorrow when I pick it up.
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11-07-2011, 08:58 PM
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She just wanted to get rid of it because it was wasting space under one of thier sinks.
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11-07-2011, 09:06 PM
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You lucked out. Do it. No one is being screwed, so no ethics problem.
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11-07-2011, 09:08 PM
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Legally, it's still their keg.
But you asked about ethics. The owners have been given ample opportunity to retrieve their property and have, by their actions, made it clear that they don't want it back.
Take the keg and use it for your own purposes with a clear conscience.
If anyone is being unethical, it's the brewery that expects their paying customers (the bars) to also serve as free storage for their inventory of empty kegs. Sorry, I know this is a sore subject around here, but once a bar (or anyone else) has made an honest effort to return an empty keg and are refused, than that keg is free game.
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11-07-2011, 09:11 PM
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I am going to buy the keg... I didn't know that bars paid deposits on kegs.
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11-07-2011, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by subliminalurge
Legally, it's still their keg.
But you asked about ethics. The owners have been given ample opportunity to retrieve their property and have, by their actions, made it clear that they don't want it back.
Take the keg and use it for your own purposes with a clear conscience.
If anyone is being unethical, it's the brewery that expects their paying customers (the bars) to also serve as free storage for their inventory of empty kegs. Sorry, I know this is a sore subject around here, but once a bar (or anyone else) has made an honest effort to return an empty keg and are refused, than that keg is free game.
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I agree. Keg ethics is tricky, but if a good-faith effort was made to return the keg to its rightful owner (which sure sounds like it was in this case), I'm going to say that you can go ahead and buy the keg in good conscious.
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11-07-2011, 09:18 PM
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Let me clear up my post... I will buy any keg for 30 bucks (i'm unethical) but I really respect the owner of the bar... I don't want to put her in a compromising situation.
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11-07-2011, 09:20 PM
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I didn't, either. And I don't think the OP has been resolved yet.....so let's move this into a slightly different situation.
You're visiting a friend. They have a nice Harley-Davidson in their garage, a model you've been looking for. You ask if they're interested in selling, and they say no, they're just storing it for another friend. Trouble is, the friend has left it there for a year, hasn't called, and your friend hasn't been able to raise them at all to try to get them to pick up their motorcycle.
I'm sure you've figured out the denouement (we have to ignore the part about the title, by the way....we'll assume the title was signed over to them for some reason, so that the legal part is clear, but the original owner made it clear that he was coming back for it at some point). Your friend offers to sell you the motorcycle for what he regards as a year's storage fee, $500. Ignoring everything else, including the market value of the motorcycle, are you ethically compromised by buying it?
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