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Old 01-18-2011, 10:48 AM   #1
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Right now, i brew with a gas burner, I am in Ohio and the problem is, it is way too cold for me to be standing outside brewing, I really hate the cold lol. Electric brewing seems to be a way around this, and from what i have been reading also seems cheaper in the long run. A full set up of either gas or Electric seems to be about the same price. What are the other pros and cons?

Please keep it friendly, im not trying to start a war here i would just like to hear the benefits and down falls of each before i spend a butt-load of money on a system.

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Old 01-18-2011, 11:14 AM   #2
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Kitchen brewer here. Benefits are like you said. Heat in the winter, air-conditioning in the summer. But convenience is the biggest factor for me. Nice big counter, deep sink with hot running water, clean working environment. I put all my post boil stuff in the dishwasher and run an antibacterial cycle and then take it out as I need it. I've got a turkey fryer burner and a SQ-14 burner, but haven't used either in a couple of years.

Only drawback for me is that I store all my gear in the basement. Hauling it upstairs and setting up is a PITA.




Disclaimer: Electric HLT and MLT, but boil on stovetop.

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Old 01-18-2011, 11:33 AM   #3
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Kitchen brewer here. Benefits are like you said. Heat in the winter, air-conditioning in the summer. But convenience is the biggest factor for me. Nice big counter, deep sink with hot running water, clean working environment. I put all my post boil stuff in the dishwasher and run an antibacterial cycle and then take it out as I need it. I've got a turkey fryer burner and a SQ-14 burner, but haven't used either in a couple of years.

Only drawback for me is that I store all my gear in the basement. Hauling it upstairs and setting up is a PITA.




Disclaimer: Electric HLT and MLT, but boil on stovetop.
Well i do plan to convert the basement into a brewery, so no lugging up and down stairs.This is a few years off tho. I plan to have the unit stationary once installed Or at least as stationary as possible. I also plan to have Water pipes to the brew area and Prolly a large GPD ro/di unit.
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Pro- Easier to automate in the future should you be one of "those" folks. Smaller footprint. Very quiet running. Ultra efficient power usage. Fail safe if used with a GFCI circuit breaker.

Con- Can't use a paint strainer hop bag that would touch the electric element in the boil kettle.

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Pro- Easier to automate in the future should you be one of "those" folks. Smaller footprint. Very quiet running. Ultra efficient power usage. Fail safe if used with a GFCI circuit breaker.

Con- Can't use a paint strainer hop bag that would touch the electric element in the boil kettle.
Well, i am one of "those" People, but not by choice, i have a very bad back and any lifting over say 10 lbs= 2-6+ hours worth of pain. So i do want to have my set up fully automated so that i can do as much as possible with minimal lifting. For the record i would not dream of running an electric brewery without a GFCI circuit breaker!
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My system isn't automated, I have "off" and "on" switches on my control panel. The reason I went all-electric indoor brewing is because of the weather- I only brewed outside once or twice on nice days. I didn't have water out to my garage, and even if I did it would be a seasonal thing.

I use a corner of my first floor laundry room for brewing now. The only issue is moisture. Brewing puts out a LOT of moisture. You'll need a ventilation system (range hood) or in my case I have a full-sized door that is next to the BK and I open it and turn on a fan.

The great part of using the system is that there is no lifting. Fill the HLT, pump to the MLT, gravity drain to the BK, pump through the CFC, etc. It's better than my stovetop for that reason.

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My system isn't automated, I have "off" and "on" switches on my control panel. The reason I went all-electric indoor brewing is because of the weather- I only brewed outside once or twice on nice days. I didn't have water out to my garage, and even if I did it would be a seasonal thing.

I use a corner of my first floor laundry room for brewing now. The only issue is moisture. Brewing puts out a LOT of moisture. You'll need a ventilation system (range hood) or in my case I have a full-sized door that is next to the BK and I open it and turn on a fan.

The great part of using the system is that there is no lifting. Fill the HLT, pump to the MLT, gravity drain to the BK, pump through the CFC, etc. It's better than my stovetop for that reason.
That is what i was thinking, being able to Pump through all stages, But what i really want is computer controlled. I want to be able to dump the grains in the mash, push a button, and it follow pre set directions.

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Put grains in. Push button, it measures exact amount of starting water needed,brings it to the step temp needed, say 122 protein rest(i use A LOT of Oat Malt lol) then it automatically holds the temp at 122 for say 30-45 mins, then automatically brings the temp up to say 156 for mash, Holds it there for 60 mins, then Automatically pumps it to the boil kettle and automatically sparges. Then an alarm goes off to tell me its has hit 212, then an alarm automatically goes off to tell me when to add every hop addition depending on the pre programmed recipe.

That would be my Dream Set Up.
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I use a combo of electric and gas in my basement. Electric to heat the hot liquor tun, gas (vented out side) to heat the strike water and boil enclosed with stainless steel and hood. The electric is nice for the sparge water and HERMS; the gas is faster and overall I would have to say a bit cheaper especially when making 10-15 gallon batches. There are risks on either side but then again some homes use a gas range where others use electric - no need to box your self into a corner of 'one or the other'; hybrids can work when safely used

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That is what i was thinking, being able to Pump through all stages, But what i really want is computer controlled. I want to be able to dump the grains in the mash, push a button, and it follow pre set directions.

For example:

Put grains in. Push button, it measures exact amount of starting water needed,brings it to the step temp needed, say 122 protein rest(i use A LOT of Oat Malt lol) then it automatically holds the temp at 122 for say 30-45 mins, then automatically brings the temp up to say 156 for mash, Holds it there for 60 mins, then Automatically pumps it to the boil kettle and automatically sparges. Then an alarm goes off to tell me its has hit 212, then an alarm automatically goes off to tell me when to add every hop addition depending on the pre programmed recipe.

That would be my Dream Set Up.
Buy a Sabco...
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Oh i want a Sabco BUT, they don't have an electric set up that i am aware of and they still are not as fully automated as i want. I basically want to dump in the grains, and walk away and let the computer to all the work until it is time to add hops,cool and pitch yeast. I know I know good luck finding that lol
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