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SmokingGunn 12-07-2012 12:32 PM

Doomsday Preppers
I have to admit, I can't get enough of the Nat Geo series "Doomsday Preppers." Some of those people are a little crazy... Some a little practical. Though I'm not much of a prepper myself, it makes me wonder what would be in store for the future of beer in a doomsday scenario.

How would you get ready for the end of the world as we know it, beer wise. You won't be able to have those grains, hops, and yeast packets shipped across the country to your doorstep. Would you try to store bulk supplies somehow? How would you preserve the freshness of your ingredients? Would you grow your own ingredients? What do you do for yeast? I would assume you'd have to switch to wood for fuel and preserve your propane...


mb82 12-07-2012 12:42 PM

Personally I would give up on beer and go to mead cider and fruit wines. The only reason is getting ingredients for beer would be much more difficult then the ingredients for the other options locally or require too much work( at that point easier to obtain/create is far more important for survival). For yeast I would culture my own local yeast, probably off of the skins of fruit to start with.

SmokingGunn 12-09-2012 02:29 PM

Wow. Only one response. Is this in the wrong forum?

Yuri_Rage 12-09-2012 02:33 PM

It's probably in the right place, but on the borderline. It has nothing to do with the technical info usually discussed here, which is likely why you're not receiving the interest you'd prefer.

Zamial 12-09-2012 02:47 PM

We have had threads like this in the past and the response above is the most correct. Malting barley is a PITA, don't think so try it!

CatHead 12-09-2012 03:15 PM

I have fruit growing in my yard so would definitely only be making fruit wines. The thought of making wines from my excess fruit is what got me looking into brewing.

Nightshade 12-09-2012 03:20 PM

Lambic wine at that point for me.

I have enough useable trade stock that if I felt I needed a beer then I would eithr trade some of that stock or trade lead, personally though beer isn't on my list of necessities in this sort of scenario.

huntingohio 12-09-2012 03:22 PM

You can actually stock up and store grains.
They make little mylar bags that you could seal them in whole not ground. If you put an o2 absorber packet in them [they are sold super cheap on ebay], they could be stable for 20 plus years. Same with hops, just dry them really really well. The only thing that wouldnt store well is yeast.
Its going to be my streategy at income tax time that way I can have 100-150lbs of grain stored and a few pounds of hops, and not have to buy any for a year or two.

Yeast will be a problem as even if you wash it after 5-6 generations it will go bad.

Wine would be the way to go for the doomsday types. Grape vines and berries would be easy to plant and are super easy to maintain.

Zamial 12-09-2012 05:07 PM

I have an untested beverage that I plan to make this spring. I am calling Birch Beer. I will go and tap birch trees since they are NOT regulated for "tapping seasons" (major reason why real maple syrup is so expensive this year.) I will also dig up some of the roots.

I will take the "milk" and boil some of it down to a syrup but the majority will get boiled with the cleaned/chopped roots until i hit a 1.054-ish OG and then I will ferment it. How will it taste? I have no idea. But in a end of the world scenario I would be all over the maple trees in the spring as well.

"Beer" as we know it will probably become a rare commodity as it will become harder and harder to plant, harvest and malt barley. The labor for the return simply is not worth the effort.

BTW there is a HUGE difference in edible/food storage and storing malted grains long term. I do not think sticking grains in a Mylar bag w/ O2 absorbing packets will keep the enzymes alive for years and years but I may be wrong.

Yuri_Rage 12-09-2012 05:13 PM

Enzymes are not living organisms. With cool, dry vacuum storage, they may well last for many years.

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