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Sir Humpsalot 02-11-2008 07:14 AM

Does anyone really like IPA's?
Seriously, I have never had an IPA that I liked. I brewed Yooper's DFH60 clone and the sampling has indicated that it's a really good beer, and it's really good for an IPA, but truth be told, it's hopped like crazy and it just takes away from the beer-ness of it all.

I drink IPA's when I'm around homebrewers just to be polite. I guess I can understand what folks see in them, but deep down, I just don't think they're that great and if I never had another one, or if the style had never been invented, I wouldn't really be saddened.

Anybody else feel the same?

Klainmeister 02-11-2008 07:18 AM

I feel the same. I think when the hoppiness is that high it just takes away from the whole concept of the beer itself. Couldn't you just steep some hops and have a hop tea instead!?

Nonetheless, different strokes for different folks. I suppose it could be acquired or maybe some people just have more/less sensitive bitter zones. I'm a malt boy myself.

Brewtopia 02-11-2008 07:19 AM

Personally, I LOVE IPA's.
I've never been a brewer that adhere's that closely to style guidelines and I tend to like beers that may be over hopped for certain styles.

Don't get me wrong, I like balance. But I also tend to like beers that lean towards the hoppy side.

Hey, I do live in the Pacific NW. :D

Sir Humpsalot 02-11-2008 07:43 AM

I have 44 IBU's in a german Alt-Bier and it's right at my limit for "ordinary" hoppiness. I mean, I can have a bit more hoppiness, but everybody who tastes the beer says, "it's very hoppy" and I concur. I could add more hops, but if I do the beer will be very hop-centric.

40 IBU's or so is my limit for normal beers. I find 40 IBU's to be quite hoppy and don't want to generally go above that limit for normal drinking.

Now, as I said, I did make the DFH60 clone and it came out a little low on the efficiency so it's even hoppier than planned. I like it well enough. I know it's a good beer. I can give it to people and say, "that's a hoppy beer". But I'm not crazy about it except as an experiment in hops.

I'm actually looking forward to making some beers in the 8-12 IBU range this year. I'm especially psyched about a couple of 2.5-3.5% ABV beers I have planned for every day drinking.

MikeRLynch 02-11-2008 11:02 AM

When making (good) IPAs, the focus is on balance not only of the hops and the malt, but also of the hops themselves. The addition times are extreamly important, as well as where in the process they are used (mash hop, hop-back, continuous hop, dry hop, etc.) I think that while IPA obviously is all about the hops, I think that it can be approached the same way as malt centric beers can be approached. We fret and bite our nails about just the right percentages of different malt types to use, to achieve that right amount of balance. Hop type and percentages are just as important, and can be just as difficult.

I think malty beers and hoppy beers both share the same difficulty in production, and making an IPA by "just throwing in a bunch of hops" is pretty much going to yield the same result as making a english mild by "just throwing in a bunch of malt." Care must be taken with all beer recipes, and either with hops or without, its all beer :)


rdwj 02-11-2008 11:15 AM

I like an IPA like here and there, but they are far from my favorite. Additionally, I don't usually like the WAY overdone ones. All in all, they are one of those things that I can appreciate and enjoy, but I will usually just have one.

brewt00l 02-11-2008 11:36 AM

Nobody does....

..it's just an inside joke we have been playing on you to see if you would drink really bitter hoppy beers.

Dude 02-11-2008 12:48 PM

Wow, what is up with you guys? One doesn't like scottish ales, and another doesn't like IPAs? ;)

IPA is one of my favorite styles. I am absolutely fascinated by hops.

The story alone on how IPA came about makes me appreciate it even more.

Evan! 02-11-2008 12:49 PM

Really? Do you honestly think that they would be so popular if nobody really liked them? I love me some IPA...IIPA and DIPA even more. Break me off some hops, dammit! Don't get me wrong, I love malty bocks and scottish ales too...but I can be a bit of a hophead sometimes, and nothing works but an IPA.

Yooper 02-11-2008 12:57 PM

Well, I like pretty much ALL beers. But my favorite style definitely is IPA. American IPA especially, but I love the English IPAs, too. I'm not a big stout fan, but I like them enough to have one when I'm out with friends, or if someone made a good one. I guess we all have different tastes, don't we?

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