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Old 06-09-2011, 04:59 PM   #111
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I WILL NOT tip someone to provide me service worse than what I get at McDonalds.
That's definitley your right. Just keep in mind that in most states the McDonalds employee makes 3X+ the hourly wage as your avg. server.

In all but 7 states tipped employees are not paid federal minimum wage.

I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the avg server tho. Most people tip and most servers make on average with tip more than $10/hr while only claiming a fraction of thier tips.

Getting stiffed is part of the job. Yes, it sucks but every job has a sucky part. If your consistantly not getting tipped you are either a really bad server or your in a really bad resturant. Either way a change is in order.
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Old 06-09-2011, 05:06 PM   #112
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worth noting that (and I believe this is federal law) that regardless of what tipped minimum wage is, if tips plus wages don't meet or exceed the federal minimum wage the employer has to cover the difference. Even then, minimum wage sucks. Tip em something even if it's small.

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Old 06-09-2011, 05:08 PM   #113
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minimum wage does suck. i make 10 an hour and really struggle to make ends meet. a lot of arguing has started about the numbers, but no matter what the waiters are making unless they live with their parents they are likely struggling financially.

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Old 06-09-2011, 05:13 PM   #114
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But how about at a sporting event when you order a beer from a beer cart or the "snack bar."

You are paying $8+ for a BMC crappy beer, do you still tip?
If you can afford $8 for a beer, you can afford $9. Those are the most ripped off servers in the entire industry.

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Old 06-09-2011, 05:15 PM   #115
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I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the avg server tho. Most people tip and most servers make on average with tip more than $10/hr while only claiming a fraction of thier tips.
Yeah, because you can have a great quality of life making $10 an hour.


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Old 06-09-2011, 05:16 PM   #116
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minimum wage does suck. i make 10 an hour and really struggle to make ends meet. a lot of arguing has started about the numbers, but no matter what the waiters are making unless they live with their parents they are likely struggling financially.
yeah i had to have three jobs when i was waiting tables. my wife wasn't working then and i didn't make nearly what i deserved to make.
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Old 06-09-2011, 05:19 PM   #117
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I have no problem with not tipping if someone really provides bad service. It's the "I'm not tipping at all unless they do something amazing" attitude that just makes me think "cheap douchebag".

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it would have to be them ****ing up and not caring, or being really really rude to me, before i would give no tip.

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Yeah, because you can have a great quality of life making $10 an hour.


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roll your eyes if you want... I was a server for over 10 years so I lived it.

Yes, it was mostly living hand to mouth and I stuggled to make ends meet many times. You know what tho, serving is not a destination job. Its not skilled labor, requires no degree or special training and is the type of thing you do while your young and generally dont have a ton of responsibilties. Obviously, there are many people who do it thier whole lives but that is their choice and they have to live with it.

I left resturant many years ago, taking a massive paycut, back to minimum wage, because I realized I didnt want to spend the rest of my life living hand to mouth. I had to sacrifice many things and learn a new skill set from the ground up but now I make more than I ever would be able to in resturant work. I do miss the atmosphere tho, resturant work, with a good crew around you, is a ton of fun, both on the job and after hours.
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I work very hard in a very busy bar. It used to bother me when people didn't tip. Especially when I went over and beyond to give them a good experience. Now I just feel sorry for them. This type of person most likely has a pretty sad life. I would bet they have pretty superficial relationships and the friends they think they have talk s&-! Behind their back. So ask yourself what's a few bucks? I know I feel good when I tip well. It's just money it's going to be worthless in a few years anyway..... . End rant...

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