Happy HolidaySs Giveaway - Winners Re-Re-Re-Drawn - 24 hours to Claim!

Get your HBT Growlers, Shirts and Membership before the Rush!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Beer Discussion > Do you really trust using brass?
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-30-2009, 01:31 AM   #1
ILOVEBEER
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 728
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default Do you really trust using brass?

I know there is a way to "delead" the brass with peroxide and vinegar and I know alot of you use brass in your systems....but do you guys really feel safe doing so?

I'm not trying to start a debate or anything or sound like a pompous ass...not the case.

For the last two months I have been buying little by little all the pieces for my RIMS that were mocked up with brass (valves, nipples, flared pipe ends etc) and replacing them with SS pieces. It is pricey, but in my opinion worth my sanity (and health). Stainless is by far a superior material to brass....and a little harder than copper, which is also used for fermentors, transfer piping etc by brewers.

The way I look at it....if it was really safe to do so, then why don't all the high end brewing rigs you can buy or the big brewers use BRASS?

Just an opinion and interested to hear what you all think

__________________
ILOVEBEER is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-30-2009, 01:55 AM   #2
Catt22
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,998
Liked 57 Times on 55 Posts
Likes Given: 51

Default

I have no fear of brass at all. There's really no question that stainless is better, but how much better will forever be an endless debate. The bling value of SS is relatively high and that is important to many. Regarding the high end rigs; marketing is a major influence. You know, curb appeal and all that which is similar to the bling factor. The concern other than appearance usually has to do with the minuscule amount of lead that the brass contains. I have no way of testing for possible lead contamination in my beer or even my tap water for that matter. There is a lot of brass used in most home plumbing and I'm sure there's a bunch used at the water treatment plants and in the distribution lines. I'm not aware of any health issues directly related to those. Lead soldered connections on copper pipe and brass fittings was a much bigger concern. Lead solder is no longer used, but there is still a lot of old piping that did use it when originally installed. I really think that relative to the exposure we have due to contaminants in the air we breathe, the food we eat and probably the clothes we wear that the tiny exposure of anything harmful in brass is negligible. As I said, I have no way of testing and I am no expert on this stuff by any stretch, so it's just my personal opinion. I do use some brass and I don't worry about it at all. I would go with all SS if cost were not an issue, which it is at the moment. Someday I will probably make the switch, but I'm in no hurry. Global warming or the flu plague will probably get us before the lead does. Ya know, it's always somethin'.

__________________
Catt22 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-30-2009, 02:40 AM   #3
ILOVEBEER
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 728
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

"Ya know, it's always somethin'."

Hahaha ain't that the truth. I went that route just for the piece of mind. Granted I could have bought 5 brass ball valves for 30.00 instead of the five 3 piece SS valves for 125.00 or brass QD's instead of morebeers SS QD's etc etc. One thing is for sure, if I get something it isn't going to be from making beer! As it stands now, I have alot of copper and alot of stainless and an empty pocket!!!!!!!!!!!

Take Care

__________________
ILOVEBEER is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-30-2009, 03:01 AM   #4
JKoravos
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chelmsford, MA
Posts: 964
Liked 18 Times on 14 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

I trust John Palmer's metallurgy knowledge. His opinion is that it isn't even worth the effort to pickle the brass parts.

__________________
JKoravos is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-30-2009, 03:44 AM   #5
jds
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jds's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Littleton, CO
Posts: 1,947
Liked 18 Times on 15 Posts

Default

Another metallurgist here. I don't pickle brass fittings either. The total quantity of lead that could potentially leach out of a brass fitting into beer is miniscule.

If I were selecting materials for a start-up brewery, the reason I'd avoid brass is that it doesn't stand up well to strong acids, like you see used in brewery cleaning processes. For homebrew-scale use, where we only occasionally (if at all) use strong acids as part of the cleaning process, I don't see it as a problem.

__________________
jds is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-30-2009, 03:53 AM   #6
The Pol
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 11,774
Liked 75 Times on 64 Posts
Likes Given: 14

Default

Good stuff...

I love brass, I just tell people it is gold plating, wayyy cooler than SS.

__________________
The Pol is offline
dr_chamb Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-30-2009, 04:03 AM   #7
ILOVEBEER
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 728
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Got it! At this point there is no turning back. The damage is done

Two more flared to pipe threaded fittings and all of the stuff that touches my sweet beer will be SS.

__________________

ILOVEBEER is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-30-2009, 04:11 AM   #8
shek
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 257
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Lead is heavy right? I'll just start using a long secondary....

__________________
shek is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-30-2009, 04:17 AM   #9
waldoar15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 683
Liked 8 Times on 7 Posts

Default

I'm sure I got more poison over the years welding up all those Tri-Clover and Ladish fittings to stainless pipe when I worked in a food processing plant than I'd ever get out of some brass fittings with a little beer running through them.

__________________
waldoar15 is offline
Panky Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-30-2009, 04:22 AM   #10
ILOVEBEER
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 728
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

The ones that I was really concerned with were the ones that would boil along with the wort...not that it matters but.....

__________________
ILOVEBEER is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
3 thermometers: which to trust nebben Equipment/Sanitation 2 06-07-2009 04:54 PM
Should I trust my hydrometer? DNW Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 4 05-30-2009 04:27 PM
exactly why to NOT always trust your airlocks defenestrate Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 22 05-18-2009 01:54 AM
Do you trust your refractometer? BigNastyBrew Equipment/Sanitation 14 04-08-2009 11:15 PM
For all those who brew outside! Trust me.... EamusCatuli All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 4 07-18-2008 11:13 PM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS