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HP_Lovecraft · 02-24-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rabidgerbil

As to Guinness not being Irish, I believe the point the poster was making is that it has not been Irish for a long time now,

True, though it wasnt meant as an insult. My grandparents came from Ireland, and I happen to like Guinness. My point was that it doesnt really matter where it comes from since Guinness itself doesnt represent much of Ireland for me. Its too hyper-marketed.

Oddly, during my last trip to Ireland, most young adults were drinking Budweiser. Also brewed at the Guinness factory in Dublin.

blaqball · 02-24-2008, 04:06 AM

I have these feelings too.
To me it's like making cookies from scratch or buying the just add water version.
It's sort of a bad example because the box kind taste better than my homemade cooking. Steeping grains is fun. Mixing in DME is not. Extracts seem so inside the box....boring. This much of that grain and this much of that one and this and that. I'm making my own beer. I want the best and I'm not looking for the easy way to do it.

**Yuri_Rage** · 02-24-2008, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by david_42

Yes, there are breweries that use extract. In several cases I know of, it is a matter of waste disposal. If you can't sell (or give away) your spent grain, this can be a real problem.

There's a great brewpub in Portsmouth, VA, named Alt Platz, where all of the beer is brewed via extract + grain or partial mash recipes. The brewer simply can't efficiently dispose of several hundred pounds of spent grain. So, he buys bulk liquid extract at a very reasonable price, and his profit margin is such that he is now looking for a bigger venue. I had the good fortune to sit in on a brew day there, and I was very surprised at the simplicity of the process. It was simple homebrewing on a very grand scale. If you ask me, pure genius!

**Yuri_Rage** · 02-24-2008, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by blaqball

I have these feelings too.
To me it's like making cookies from scratch or buying the just add water version.
It's sort of a bad example because the box kind taste better than my homemade cooking. Steeping grains is fun. Mixing in DME is not. Extracts seem so inside the box....boring. This much of that grain and this much of that one and this and that. I'm making my own beer. I want the best and I'm not looking for the easy way to do it.

You are highly misinformed. Though I brew all grain and take great pride and satisfaction in making great brew from fairly raw ingredients, I have to acknowledge that extract brewing affords almost as much flexibility as all grain brewing. Specialty grains can be used to GREAT effect in extract brewing. You should not discount it as a very valid and very creative process through which to create great beer.

Kevin Dean · 02-24-2008, 04:25 AM

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The basis is an unfermented but hopped Guinness wort extract shipped from Dublin, which is added to local ingredients and brewed locally.

While this is still technically extract I wonder if it counts for the purpose of the poster's question. I mean, if they make their own wort and then concentrate it themselves (or contract to do it) for shipping and then redo it, it is a little different that a typical "extract" batch since they still control the ingredients, quality and consistancy.

dmckean44 · 01-04-2012, 07:29 PM

There's a ton of breweries/brewpubs that make their own hopped wort and use that as a basis for 6 or 7 of their beers. I dislike these places because you'll order a sample flight and everything tastes the same.

cowgo · 01-04-2012, 10:34 PM

Turnkey Brewpub and Microbrewery Systems Supplies And Equipment Manufacturers

I've read some pretty bad reviews about this system, mainly because it's marketed to non-brewers who want to have a brewpub using extract and that it's a no boil set up.

I like their statement, "Our beers have won 1st place five years in a row." Of course what competition is never mentioned.

**Bernie Brewer** · 01-04-2012, 10:39 PM

Water St. Brewery in Milwaukee is an extract brewpub. As has already been stated, I am sure there are more.

Montanaandy · 01-05-2012, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bernie Brewer

Water St. Brewery in Milwaukee is an extract brewpub. As has already been stated, I am sure there are more.

This explains why I have never cared for WSB's beer and always go to Lakefront when in MKE.