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Old 11-27-2012, 07:15 PM   #21
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Can you get argon? It's more expensive but works just as well.
Does it need to be blended? That seems to be the issue with my local supplier, they refuse to blend it for me.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:17 PM   #22
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:09 PM   #23
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If you're only running like one keg off of nitro, it *could* be worth it depending on how huge of a bottle you get and how much you want to impress your buddies

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Old 11-27-2012, 09:32 PM   #24
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Carbonate to around 1 volume with CO2. Serve on pure nitrogen or pure argon. It takes a long time for the pour to be adversely affected (so far, for me, at least several weeks - and I've never had a keg last long enough to prove that it will ever go flat without blended gas). If it ever does go a bit flat, force carbonate again.

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Yep, I've been asking for beer gas, although, I know I'm in trouble when I have to expleain what beer gas is..... LoL.. they all think I'm a loon or that I'm building a Meth lab...
Ha! I’ve had the same thing asking at my welding gas filler even though they know what my 5# co2 tank is for.

I can get beergas at another place but it’s a lot more expensive; argon is cheaper… N being the cheapest
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:59 PM   #26
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I think your biggest problem might be your bottle size. When I first started looking no one wanted to mess around with a small cylinder. They wanted to exchange for the five foot tall one which was a more common size one used in the food and beverage industry. After 3 months of figuring this out and hitting multiple dead ends I was able to trade my new 20 lb co2 bottle for an equivalent steel bottle. This took finding the area vp for air gas and getting him to pencil whip the uneven cylinder exchange.

My experience with that industry is the would much rather sell something familiar to a welder than sell weird gas mix in an odd size bottle because they do not know how to order it in their system. Once you get them to do one exchange it is a simple matter to get them to order one a week out and have it there for you when your bottle dies.

Do not ask for it too early as there is a chance the bottle could leak in the yard when the guys move the bottle and crack the valve. (A tip the local guys told me)

I live 5 hours from the fill plant but they have a truck that makes a run once a week. Remember you are the odd ball so find out when they place the order to the fill plant and call early that day to remind them. They forgot my order three weeks until I figured this out. Remember you are not a big corporate account that comes in and orders 20 bottles. You are about as low a priority as it gets.

Find someone at your local store (prefer a manager) that likes beer and bribe him with a nice 6 or 12 pack of cream ale. Make labels and put "Made specifically for my good friend "insert name"". Tell them why you want it. Show them pics of your beer.

This sounds corny but you would be amazed at what you can get done by showing up in person being friendly and offering beer or taking flowers. It is very easy to say no over the phone. It's hard to look a worn out home brewer and tell him face to face that his dreams of making creamy nitrogen beer are never going to happen.

Anyways that's how it went for me. Now I have a bottle that should last a year and my nitro oatmeal stouts and porters ARE THE CATS ASS on nitro.

Hope this helps you in your quest my friend. Stay strong *brofist*

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This sounds corny but you would be amazed at what you can get done by showing up in person being friendly and offering beer or taking flowers. It is very easy to say no over the phone. It's hard to look a worn out home brewer and tell him face to face that his dreams of making creamy nitrogen beer are never going to happen.
I think if I brought my gas fill guys at the welding station flowers I’d get beat up! They are some big burly guys (that shower once a week?)… somewhat friendly but lacking in the social dept. Any case, I try not to piss them off and I think flowers might do that.
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For me it was not the burly guys at the counter that placed the order. It was the lady in the back office.

Sorry for the confusion.

Beer for the guys at the desk.

Flowers for the lady that actually places the order at the fill plant.

If the ordering lady happens to be a guy. The start with beer. If he is a little light in the pants then you may consider flowers. 8)

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Carbonate to around 1 volume with CO2. Serve on pure nitrogen or pure argon. It takes a long time for the pour to be adversely affected (so far, for me, at least several weeks - and I've never had a keg last long enough to prove that it will ever go flat without blended gas). If it ever does go a bit flat, force carbonate again.
Good info! Thanks!
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