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Old 08-04-2013, 05:31 AM   #1
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Default Do Belgian Yeasts vary much? Worth the extra cost?

So today I picked up my ingredients to make my Belgian Ale. I was meaning to get the Wyeast 1388 Belgian Strong Ale, but as I was ordering i drew a blank. I ended up getting Safbrew S-33... was told it would work. Later I read about it and realized that it is not like Wyeast 1388.

So, my experimentation will begin... because I can't take the S-33 back now. I did order the Wyeast 1388 Belgian Strong Ale and also a pack of Safbrew T-58 Ale Yeast.

This is what I plan to do (let me know if you have any experience with the differences).

I am going to make 3 separate batches.

1 with Safbrew S-33 (5 gallon)
1 with Safbrew T-58 (just because I want to know the difference... might be a 3 gallon deal in my old Mr. Beer)
1 with Wyeast 1388 Belgian Strong Ale (5 gallon. I plan to just go ahead and order this for the experiment).


My recipes will be:

10 lbs Pilsen Light LME
1.5 lbs Cane Sugar
2 oz Saaz
Safbrew S-33

10 lbs Pilsen Light LME
1.5 lbs Cane Sugar
2 oz Saaz
Wyeast 1388 Belgian Strong Ale


10 lbs Pilsen Light LME (or equivalent for 3 gallon batch)
1.5 lbs Cane Sugar
2 oz Saaz
Safbrew T-58


Thoughts? Past experiences?



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Old 08-04-2013, 05:32 AM   #2
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at Northern Brewer the cost runs like this:

Safbrew T-58 Ale Yeast $1.99
Safbrew S-33 $1.99
Wyeast 1388 Belgian Strong Ale $6.50

I am wondering if the first 2 will taste close enough so i won't need to spend the extra money in the future...



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Old 08-04-2013, 06:24 AM   #3
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I have not heard of a dry yeast equivalent for WY 1388, the Duvel strain. But I could be wrong, if so, some one will chime in.
I believe the three yeasts you listed are all different. Your experiment should help determine which you like best.
good luck!

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Also, make sure you do a starter for the liquid yeast. search around here for the how to's if you haven't done one before.

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It's likely you won't notice much of a difference. I've used S-33 quite successfully on Tripels as well as WLP530 & 550. All of them produce the phelonics/funk flavors under warm brewing conditions around 65-75f.

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It looks like you are only changing the yeast with each recipe, which is the best way to figure out exactly what the yeast difference will do. Let us know how they turn out. My first brew next month is going to be a double brew of my porter recipe, with half using chocolate malt and the other half using Roast Barley. Everything else will be identical. Changing only one variable gives a better feel for that individual ingredient.

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1388 produces pear esters. The other two don't.

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It's likely you won't notice much of a difference.
i disagree

s-33 is an english strain, it won't be like the other 2

t-58 is pretty spicy/peppery and highly attenuating

1388 is also quite high attenuator, but more fruity than the t-58
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The good news is, I end up with 15+ gallons of Belgium Strongs... I don't see much of a drawback. I love this style of beer anyway.

From this baseline, I will start adjusting the hops and maybe a slight amount of specialty grains for different tastes.

Funny thing is, I bought 33lbs of Pilsen LME for this, and will pretty much use it all for just 3 batches. :-)

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In the grand scheme of things, it's still gonna work out in my favor.

2 oz Saaz @ 1.50------------= $3
Yeast (dry pack)-------------= $1.99
10 lbs Pilsen -----------------= $18.18 (59.99 for 33 lbs LME)
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$23.17 or ~ $5.35 a twelve pack.


2 oz Saaz @ 1.50--------= $3
1388 Yeast--------------= $6.50
10 lbs Pilsen-------------= $18.18

$27.68 or ~ $6.39 a twelve pack.



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