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Old 05-26-2012, 05:09 PM   #1
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Default Dme is pure evil

the stuff is 100% devil-powder. ground up demon seed. pain dust.

so it's 2 am on a friday night and it's occurred to me that i need to start my starter for sunday's batch. in a misguided quest for efficiency, i decide to try boiling the DME directly in the erlenmeyer flask, instead of my usual method of doing it in a small pot then transferring to the flask. last time i try that. HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO GET THE DME THROUGH THE NARROW NECK OF THE FLASK WITHOUT MAKING A MESS AND/OR HAVING IT STICK TO EVERYTHING?!?

i ended up with DME everywhere. the humidity in the air was enough to make it clump together. it stuck to the insides of the flask's neck so i had to force it in, and then it wouldn't dissolve. i have no idea what my starter's OG was: as i lost a bunch of DME then had to eye-ball how much to replace. i'm not worried about it, i know i'm close, but what's the point of measuring the stuff (and have it stick to the scale!) only to lose a large quantity during transfer. ugh.

i'm definitely seeing the value in canning/preserving wort for starter - only have to go through this once.

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Old 05-26-2012, 05:16 PM   #2
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I drop mine in through a funnel.



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Old 05-26-2012, 05:19 PM   #3
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I put the water in the flask, roll up a piece of paper to make a funnel, pour the DME in quickly, hand over the top and shake to mix. Put it on the stove to boil. Not difficult at all.

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well y'all be smarter than me. i was afraid that the stuff was going to stick to the funnel - why not? it's sticking to everything else.

i considered converting to dry yeast last night

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Old 05-26-2012, 05:32 PM   #5
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Sounds like operator error to me!

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well y'all be smarter than me. i was afraid that the stuff was going to stick to the funnel - why not? it's sticking to everything else.

i considered converting to dry yeast last night
That is why I use rolled up paper. I can make thhe opening as big as the mouth of the flask. A quick pour and you are done. If any sticks to the paper, just throw it away.
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i considered converting to dry yeast last night
I use dry *any* time I can. I hate messing with starters, and always feel like I'm not making a big enough starter since I only have a 2L flask and brew 10 gallon batches. So if the beer uses a strain that has a quality dry version, I use dry. Belgians & saisons are pretty much the only exception.

BTW, I don't like boiling in the flask anyway. I have a nice scar on my hand next to my thumb from a major burn when I tried doing that back in 2007...

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I just use my 8qt stainless pot for starters. I make enough for either my 2L or 3L flask that way. I'm too concerned about breaking the flask on the stove to boil mine that way.

How many that boil in the flask also use fermcap before it hits a boil? I use it in mine so that I prevent issues, even with the pot.

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Sounds like operator error to me!
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practice makes perfect as well as with the techniques you use

...if you ask me id rather use devil powder than liquid sludge LME
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doing it in a small pot then transferring to the flask
You had it right before. Just mix it with water, and pour it in your flask before boiling. Just don't ever try that with pellet hops, when dry hopping them in a carboy they expand like foam insulation


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