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Old 11-13-2009, 06:36 PM   #31
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Then don't wait 2-3 months. I don't. AFAIAC, this beer is best within the first month after brewing.
Denny, you always know the perfect thing to say .

This is good to hear, because I am already chomping at the bit, and I've only had it in the fermenter since Monday.
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Old 11-13-2009, 08:38 PM   #32
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'tis very true. My APA is generally best at about 6-8 weeks but my Imperial Stout tastes great when it's coming out of the fermenter!

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That's what I've been using for a while now.
I've tried both Watkins Pure Vanilla Extract & Real Vanilla Beans. There really is no comparison IMO. The extract just leaves a bite & the beans are smooth.
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Iam doing this batch this weekend. It is my first HG brew and have a question about the pitching rate. I see that it calls for an 1800ml starter. I only have a 1000ml flask. I do have a 1/2 growler but I do not think that the stir bar I have ( the small one) is going to work with the growler and stir plate.

Option 1 is make a 1800ml starter use the stir bar and hope it works. I can just aerate the crap out of it via direct O2 injection before adding yeast.

Option2 Just make a 1000ml starter

Option3 Use a dry yeast. If I go this route is one packet enough or go for 2? Rehydrate or not?

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Here's where I got my beans . . very nice quality and decent price . . .

http://www.beanilla.com/vanilla-bean...la-c-1_17.html
Dropped my bean in last night. I only did a 3.5gal batch (6.5gal carboys were busy). Personally you just can't compare extract to real beans. And at the prices beanilla charges there's no reason not to use the real thing.

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Iam doing this batch this weekend. It is my first HG brew and have a question about the pitching rate. I see that it calls for an 1800ml starter. I only have a 1000ml flask. I do have a 1/2 growler but I do not think that the stir bar I have ( the small one) is going to work with the growler and stir plate.

Option 1 is make a 1800ml starter use the stir bar and hope it works. I can just aerate the crap out of it via direct O2 injection before adding yeast.

Option2 Just make a 1000ml starter

Option3 Use a dry yeast. If I go this route is one packet enough or go for 2? Rehydrate or not?
I vote option 1. If the stir bar doesn't work, it'll just take a bit longer.
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which liquid yeast? i would just use us05 or us04 or notty. one packet

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Iam doing this batch this weekend. It is my first HG brew and have a question about the pitching rate. I see that it calls for an 1800ml starter. I only have a 1000ml flask. I do have a 1/2 growler but I do not think that the stir bar I have ( the small one) is going to work with the growler and stir plate.

Option 1 is make a 1800ml starter use the stir bar and hope it works. I can just aerate the crap out of it via direct O2 injection before adding yeast.

Option2 Just make a 1000ml starter

Option3 Use a dry yeast. If I go this route is one packet enough or go for 2? Rehydrate or not?
Assuming the stir bar doesn't work, Option 1 and 2 will yield about the same cell count. I can't find the chart now but a non-stirred starter requires about twice the volume to achieve the same cell count increase. The mrmalty.com calculator will tell you this (4.5L simple starter w/ oxygen or 2.25 L stir plate starter)

One suggestion is to use the growler and if the stir bar doesn't work just shake it as often as possible. This will give better results than just letting it sit.
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One thing I've been interested in trying, but have not (and I haven't heard of anyone else doing it) is making 2 starters and combining them.

If you need 1800 mL, you could make a 900 mL starter, then when you're confident the consumable sugars are gone, put that in a sterilized container (perhaps that growler) then make another 900 mL starter. You would only need 1/2 of your yeast packet/vial for each starter. It would take longer, and I don't think you'd be ready by this weekend, but I think it should work just fine.

What I did for this brew (I don't have a stirplate) is I used a (roughly) 3000 mL starter. I took a large jug I have, made my starter in that, and then everytime I walked by it in the kitchen, I opened it up, expelled the CO2 in the headspace out of it, let it fill back up with O2, then shook the crap out of it. I probably did this 10-15 times over a 2.5 day time period. I got VERY aggressive fermentation after I pitched. I have not taken FG yet, however.

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