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Old 09-20-2006, 01:29 AM   #1
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Default Debate my buddy and I had. Is extract brewing REALLY making homebrew?

My buddy and I, who also brews (AG) got into a friendly debate. On one side (mine) I was saying that of coarse extract brewing was really making homebrew. I said it takes out the step of mashing the grains, but you still have good control over the finished product. You still add specialty grains (if desired), you still add hops, you still follow much of the same procedures, except you don't have to mash the grains.

On his side he was saying that extract brewing was not really making your own beer because mashing grains is a significant step in brewing and offers even more control. He said extract brewing was the "just add water" method of homebrew. He also mentioned that since I don't know how to do AG right now, if someone just handed me a bunch of grains and hops then I wouldn't know how to use them to make beer, which is true - right now anyways.

I of coarse stand firm on my belief, but I was just curious as to what you guys think.

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Old 09-20-2006, 01:41 AM   #2
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Well, that's like saying cause you don't mill your own flour you don't really bake bread.

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Old 09-20-2006, 01:42 AM   #3
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While there is some added steps and control in mashing your own, extract brew still encompasses the core elements of making beer: proper tempurature control and good ingredient handling.

Consider this: I've tasted beer made by 4 differnet guys using the exact same extract kit on the same day and their were noticible differneces in flavor. Also, I've made the same Honey Brown Ale many times and have only recently been able to manage the process so that I get consistent results. It's easy to make good tasting beer--- it's harder to make it exactly the same each time.


Saying a 'real' brewer has to mash his own grains is like saying a chef isn't a 'real' chef unless she manufactures all her own ingredients. My sister has never made cheese but the things she can whip up in a kitchen with it.... tell you what--- I never miss a dinner at her place.

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Old 09-20-2006, 01:45 AM   #4
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To my mind, you're brewing, whether using extract or all grain. You boil your ingredients, you add all the necessary items, you put in yeast, you let it ferment, you bottle or keg, it's carbonated, it's beer.

You've brewed.


My .02 anyway.


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Oh, man........this old can of worms is open again. I brew AG and you are just as much of a homebrewer as me. Tell your "friend" that I said to go piss up a rope.

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Tell your "friend" that I said to go piss up a rope.
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Well, that's like saying cause you don't mill your own flour you don't really bake bread.
Great analogy!
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Ah, the old "is photography really art" thread. Geez, you get a variation of this same debate on just about every forum!

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Tell your friend that real homebrewers are not elitists.

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Tell your friend that real homebrewers are not elitists.

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