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02-25-2006, 05:54 PM
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The curse of Green and clear bottles
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Why do you guys think that certain beer escape the curse of the clear or green bottles? Grolsch, Heineken, Tsingtao all taste dang near exactly the same to me. But I feel like Samuel Smith's beer taste is preserved somewhat. Their Nut Brown, Oatmeal Stout, and Winter Welcome all have distinct and consistent tastes. Same for Newcastle. Do you think the importer does a better job of keeping them away from light? While typing this I realized that the first beers I mentioned are all in green bottles, while the latter are all in clear. Wonder if that makes a difference?
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02-25-2006, 06:28 PM
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What I would like to know is why does Heineken and Co. package their beer in green bottles when we all know that light will skunk them!?
Do any of you remember a Miller ad way back when that was saying that they were above the competion of something because they put their beer in clear bottles so you could, their argument was, see the beer? It cracks me up!
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02-25-2006, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Alembic
What I would like to know is why does Heineken and Co. package their beer in green bottles when we all know that light will skunk them!?
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Yeah, I've always wondered about that also. I've read somewhere, maybe on this forum, where someone asked, "do you think Heineken want's their beer to taste skunky?"
I'm thinking that apparently, they do.  These guys must be drinking skunky beer!
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02-25-2006, 10:48 PM
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I have heard that corona exposes their beer to the sun before putting it in cans so it still has that authentic taste. What a bunch of wankers, I hate that sh!t.
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02-26-2006, 01:13 AM
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Heineken in cans has a very different flavor. There is always the possibility that someone in the mass market distribution chain really cares about beer and treats it properly.
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02-26-2006, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheyco
I have heard that corona exposes their beer to the sun before putting it in cans so it still has that authentic taste. What a bunch of wankers, I hate that sh!t.
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There is no denying that skunky flavor in Corona is there?
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02-26-2006, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by billybrew
Why do you guys think that certain beer escape the curse of the clear or green bottles? Grolsch, Heineken, Tsingtao all taste dang near exactly the same to me.
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Now that you mention it, yeah they do taste the same.
Grolsch bottles are cool though.
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02-26-2006, 12:03 PM
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The thing is they are imports and are standing around longer before being shipped here and consumed. Domestic usually don't have the shipping times that imports do.
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02-26-2006, 09:25 PM
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Ive enjoyed Grolsch in the past and have bought it for the bottles but the last bottle I had was definately skunked.
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02-27-2006, 12:22 AM
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My reading on skunkiness is that it is caused by VISIBLE light, in the blue/green color, so green bottles let it skunk. Corona is skunked in their clear bottles, so they always picture it being served in the bottle, so you don't smell as much skunkiness. Then, they also push lime slices, so as to cover up the skunk smell even more so. Notice that Corona boxes don't even have hand holds to lett he light in?...I've read that some brewers actually run their swill through clear lines surronded by lights to skunk it on purpose. Seems they think Americans LIKE skunk. Heineken is put into brown bottles for Eupoean sales. Also, much beer is bottled here under liscence, and may be skunked on purpose, and not imported at all.
My hypothesis is that dark beers don't let the light penetrate as much, and therefore don't skunk as much- Newcastles, Dos Equis, etc., unless the roasted grains do some other chemistry?
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