brian_g

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I added Cascade, not just once, but three times. I just thought that hops go in all beer.

So here's the story. My wife and I go to a local bar called Mad Anthony's last night that's part of a local micro brew. The seasonal beer is the Summer Wheat. We both order it. It had a lot of citrus flavor, I guessed they used Saaz or Cascade probably with some orange peel, but then it had this strong Hallertau aftertaste. It was like they used a lot of Hallertau as a flavor hop late in the boil. It didn't really go well with the citrus. So I asked the waiter, "what kind of hops are in this beer?" He told us that "Wheat beers don't have hops, because they're ales." He then told us that if we want a beer with hops we should try their IPA. I suppose that means that India Pale Ale, isn't an ale at all but a lager.

As soon as he walked away, my wife said, "that guy didn't know anything about beer, but I'm glad you didn't argue with him." We both had a good laugh about it. He gave us good service, though, and I gave him a good tip.

In my opinion, I thought that most of their beers tasted unbalanced. The raspberry wheat had way too much raspberry. The stout had a lot of chocolate malt, but need some sweetness for balance (more crystal, perhaps). I don't think they're bad beers though, I've had their Raspberry Wheat a couple of times and I'll probably go back. My wife's take was that the beers tasted like they need to sit in our basement for a couple of months. The one good think about their beers is that they have a high ABV. We were feeling pretty good after three (ok, we were feeling good after two, but decided to have three).

So I think I ruined my wheat beer, I added hops, I didn't know any better.

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davesrose

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I thought "triple hopping" non- "ales" was the next revolution in beer

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marubozo

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Oh, **** me. I just made a wheat beer yesterday and used Saaz hops.

BRB while I go dump it out. Wish someone would have told me sooner that hops don't go in wheat beers.

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mroberts1204

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Hops are used in wheat beers...just not very much. For Bavarian hefs you want to stick to the noble hop variety. For American hefs, citrusy hops are fine but you don't want to over do it. Probably no more than 30 IBU. When did you add the Cascade?

davesrose

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The OP was being facetious: that he should have taken advise from a waiter who doesn't even know what ale means.

You know, hops isn't as important as cold activated blue mountains on your bottles

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On Tap: Barleywine, Coffee Oatmeal Imperial Stout (big big beer)
Conditioning:Baltic Porter
Fermenting: Double Simcoe IPA
On the Bench: Racer 5 IPA

"One of the first things early caveman did, when he crawled out of the mudd, was to make beer. And cavemen everywhere are still making beer...and drinking beer." - Jean Sheperd

cclloyd

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India Pale Ale is a lager? Damn! I've been using the wrong yeast all along. Sounds like remedial beer styles 101 should be on the waiter's agenda and yours.

Pharmguy

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Crap! I ruined the wheat I brewed on Wednesday.....damn hops

harrydrez

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Damm three additions? Sounds like trouble, that's miller lite territory. None can touch the smooth taste of miller lite:

The first step gives the beer it's clean, distinctive "pilsner" flavor and aroma. So when you take that first sip your taste buds are on their way to happy town. That's right, the first step is happy town.

The second step, hops are added for balance. This ensures perfect body and hop taste in every beer. We all know how much you like a good body, so you're welcome.

The third step: the hops add to perfect head and lock in it's great taste from start to finish. It also gives you a rocking beer mustache.

Miller Lite > Home of the Original Lite Beer

Time to get hip to the hops.

FlyingHorse

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No, no, you guys have it all wrong. The waiter said "Wheat beers don't have hops, because they're ales."

The OP simply needs to lager his wheat beer, and all will be fine!

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brian_g

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I just spoke with my wife and she remembers the story slightly different. She remembers him saying that wheat beers don't have hops because their lagers. Which would imply that he knew that IPAs were ales. Even so, not very redeeming.

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