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Old 09-21-2012, 06:26 PM   #11
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Ok, after taking a taste I will keg it from under the floating crazies and let my buddies try it first. The worse that will happen is I will need to dump it out of the keg.
It is Old Castle, a New Castle clone.
Thanks for your help everyone. I will update with the results.

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Old 09-21-2012, 06:33 PM   #12
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From my experience here in HBT, Most would say that wild sour infections usually never turn out good. Besides that, sours take a really long time to get sour. Some people may also tell you to rack from under it, bottle/keg, and drink it quickly before it starts to taste really bad.
I had 10 gallons of this infection and I just tossed it and rebrewed. You can try to salvage by racking and cooling ASAP to slow the infection but it wan't worth it to me -- especially after factoring in all of the equipment that would have been exposed to the bugs (racking equip, kegging equip, hoses, taps, etc.) and the time to clean.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:04 PM   #13
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Have you ever had this infection before? Make sure all equipment is extremely clean after, so that nothing lingers in the next batches.

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Old 09-21-2012, 07:12 PM   #14
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I've had two batches get infected like this and they turned out to be great beers.

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Old 09-21-2012, 07:23 PM   #15
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Yep, never had this before. I transferred it to a keg and it smells and tastes fine. A little flat, ha ha. Soaking the carboy in IO Star Sanitizer right now - Including hose etc. I will probably rinse with bleach after this. I guess it will be a few weeks before I test it again. Good thing I have several kegs. Thanks!

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I'd replace all cold side hoses after this, along with the siphon/autosiphon, and keep them for future sour beers.

Just as an aside, do you crush your grain in the same room you ferment in ? Grain has lacto crawling all over it and it can get in the beer, even if you are careful.

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I'd replace all cold side hoses after this, along with the siphon/autosiphon, and keep them for future sour beers.

Just as an aside, do you crush your grain in the same room you ferment in ? Grain has lacto crawling all over it and it can get in the beer, even if you are careful.
This isn't necessarily needed. I brewed a berliner (turned out terribly). It's the only sour I've brewed but it touched my autosiphon and all the hoses with that, my thief, my keg, my airlock, my carboy. I didn't replace any of it. However I'm an absolute nazi when it comes to sanitation. Everything got a good long soak in PBC first, then a hot water rinse, then a good long soak in starsan. I've brewed two beers since without any infection.
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This isn't necessarily needed. I brewed a berliner (turned out terribly). It's the only sour I've brewed but it touched my autosiphon and all the hoses with that, my thief, my keg, my airlock, my carboy. I didn't replace any of it. However I'm an absolute nazi when it comes to sanitation. Everything got a good long soak in PBC first, then a hot water rinse, then a good long soak in starsan. I've brewed two beers since without any infection.
The reason I say to trash plastic is that if it has scratches because of wear and tear, lacto can get in there and stay in there, even with a rigorous cleaning and sanitation regimen. I reason that an 8$ siphon along with 2-3$ of hose are not worth losing another batch of beer over.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:25 PM   #19
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I had 10 gallons of this infection and I just tossed it and rebrewed. You can try to salvage by racking and cooling ASAP to slow the infection but it wan't worth it to me -- especially after factoring in all of the equipment that would have been exposed to the bugs (racking equip, kegging equip, hoses, taps, etc.) and the time to clean.

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Not worth it. I would call it a day and move on.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:42 AM   #20
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Just an update. The beer has now been in the cornelius keg for about a month. I opened the keg and checked it. The beer was nice and clear and nothing growing on the top. I guess siphoning all but the top 2 inches actually did the trick. Will be tasting it in another couple weeks. Thanks for your help!

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