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Old 05-18-2006, 07:23 PM   #1
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Well I got back my scoresheets from the first round of nationals today and to say the least I'm pretty disappointed.

I cannot for the life of me figure out why the same exact beer, entered in 2 different categories can be judged so differently. It confirms my previous suspicions of why judging competitions are a load of crap.

Highlights on one of the sheets:

Out of 5 categories on the score sheet, Aroma, Appearance, Flavor, Mouthfeel, and Overall Impression, the judge mentioned diacetyl on 5 of them. The lone category he didn't mention it on was Appearance, but for as much as he talked about it on the other portions, I'm surprised the freaking a-hole couldn't see the diacetyl as well. Ridiculous.
FWIW, not one of the other 3 score sheets even mentions a hint of any diacetyl related comments.

I just don't understand how the exact same beer can be judged so differently, and in the 2 categories have one score average a 30 and one average a 33.5, and place second in the category. It is BS.

This pretty much confirms I'll let my friends and myself be the judge of my beers form here on out. I won't be entering anymore competitions for sure--in fact I am considering not even sending in my second round entry. I'm that convinced that the BJCP/judging is a complete load of crap.

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Old 05-18-2006, 07:46 PM   #3
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Out of 6 categories on the score sheet, Aroma, Appearance, Flavor, Mouthfeel, and Overall Impression, the judge mentioned diacetyl on 5 of them. The lone category he didn't mention it on was Appearance, but for as much as he talked about it on the other portions, I'm surprised the freaking a-hole couldn't see the diacetyl as well. Ridiculous.
FWIW, not one of the other 3 score sheets even mentions a hint of any diacetyl related comments.
When did the Kaiser become a certified judge?









I know that was DMS...it just popped in my head.
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I'd like to enter a few of my brews in competitions. Is there a listing of when they are and how to get entered into them? I'd like to throw a bottle of the Caramel Vanilla out there and see what hits it gets.

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When did the Kaiser become a certified judge?
I thought he was talking about USMCRUZ?

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I thought he was talking about USMCRUZ?
But the judge didn't physically threaten him (AFAIK).
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But the judge didn't physically threaten him (AFAIK).
It could have been "arranged"...
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