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Old 07-31-2006, 04:56 PM   #1
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So we went to a tour at Troeg's they are a local brewer who pride themselves as starting out as homebrewers.. I asked a few questions and mentioned we home brew and the owner was a total prick about it. I don't understand..

Anyway I have some questions. They only ferment the beer about 7-10 days for ales and 6 weeks for Lagers. Is that long enough?

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Old 07-31-2006, 05:39 PM   #2
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How was he a prick? What did he say?

I guess I would answer your question with a question back - is the beer any good?

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Troegs makes a great product. Don't discount one experience, as the general attitude of commercial brewers. Did the founder give the tour?

To simply answer your questions in regards to fermentation schedules, these are not unreasonable fermentation periods, although they may vary from brewewry to brewery, and beer to beer.

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Most brewers I've met have been good people. The two that weren't, didn't make very good beer. One lasted three years, the other less than 9 months.

Fermentation times are ok. A commercial setup, even a small one, will be brewing more or less steadily and re-cycling the yeast for most batches. Also, the pros don't use secondaries fermentors, they have bright tanks.

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How was he a prick? What did he say?

I guess I would answer your question with a question back - is the beer any good?
He just made a real smart comment about 5 gallons and how huge his were. It was one of the two founders giving the tour. I thought I was being very respectuful and expected him to be the same. Maybe I read him wrong but he seemed insulted when I said we home brew.. While he was showing the bottling/keg area he was also trashing other breweries. It was the whole expericene that left me not liking them. Their beer is ok but I would not say it is some of the best I have had. Sam Adams brew master collection blows it away.
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Ive only taken a tour through one place in Jersey here... Gaslight in South Orange. We bought a bunch of stuff from their homebrew shop, had samplers, burgers, and played hand shuffleboard. The owner gave us a complete tour of the place, talked with us for while... gave us some free malt extract. Overall an excellent experience and i'll be going back!! Only thing thats bad about it is its location... its like 10 blocks from some real shady ghetto in Newark, NJ. Not a place I feel save leaving my Mustang parked.

My family is close friends with some winery owners... Ive never had a bad experience at any place I went wine tasting up in Upstate NY. For the most part, these are people that run/took over their family owned winery/micro, or got into brewing beer and wine becuse they are alcoholics and can make great money while being trashed all day

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I've been wanting to tour one of our local breweries (Berkshire Brewing Co) for a while. They do tours every Saturday, and I love their beer (I'd love to clone their River Ale, just a great, very well-balanced American Strong Ale). At least now I feel like I have enough knowledge to understand what I would be seeing and to ask intelligent questions. We should start a thread that lists/summarizes people's experiences at various breweries, so that if you are planning a tour, you know which to hit and which to avoid.

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When I toured the Bud plant, I felt like I was in some sort of chemical lab.

Now that I think about it, Bud basically IS chemicals.

Nevermind.

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I've never had a bad experience talking with the "big boys." He might have been crabby...

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Some pro brewers look at the fact that hey brew large batches to be what all the skill of a bewer is about. While others are really interested in taste and almost seem envious that we don't have to brew the same 3 or 4 beers all year.

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