I think people should stop quoting the BYO article.
The author uses the original proposal as the source for 3/4 of the article which details the style and then casually offers that the BA backed out all of the regional marketing propaganda in the last couple of grafs.
Nothing wrong with that. The author seems to support (and rightfully so) the original name.
I think it's more likely that the fact that there's a hop named "Cascade" played into it--rightly or wrongly, people are liable to think that a "Cascadian" beer has Cascades in it, just as they'd think a "Saazian Lager" or "Fugglian Pale Ale" would tend to indicate that a particular hop is in that beer.
I don't know, I think I'd like to give more credit to drinkers and commercial brewers than to think that. :P I think their reasoning more politics (Seccesion Ale and invoking the douglas fir tree flag symbolism) and attempting to minimize the whole regional marketing with the name.
The new Zymurgy also has a CDA article. I found it interesting that The CDA Symposium, BA guidelines and the style parameters in the Zymurgy article are all different... also it's strange that the Barley Brown Turmoil recipes are different in BYO and Zymurgy. They call for the same IBUs but the OG is 6 points higher in Zymurgy.
Nothing wrong with that. The author seems to support (and rightfully so) the original name.
That's crazy.
That would be akin to someone attributing the birth of Jazz to Kenny G and wring an entire article about his importance and popularity and how it all began in Seattle with the soprano sax.
And then saying in the last paragraph that the governing body decided to acknowledge New Orleans and Louis Armstrong so they dropped all the Kenny G prattle.
All the stuff that Cascade man wrote about in his article was deemed irrelevant to the style by the BA. It doesn't apply, so why devote 75% of an article to it when talking about style guidelines.
hi all!
i'm entering my CDA into a competition. didn't the BJCP just add a new category just a couple of months ago or am i mistaken? anyways, what category should i enter this brew in??
hi all!
i'm entering my CDA into a competition. didn't the BJCP just add a new category just a couple of months ago or am i mistaken? anyways, what category should i enter this brew in??
It's not on the BJCP style guidelines so I'm guessing no. Probably should be entered as Category 23 - Specialty beer.
The new Zymurgy also has a CDA article. I found it interesting that The CDA Symposium, BA guidelines and the style parameters in the Zymurgy article are all different... also it's strange that the Barley Brown Turmoil recipes are different in BYO and Zymurgy. They call for the same IBUs but the OG is 6 points higher in Zymurgy.
This is an old thread, but I stumbled upon it because I'm brewing a CDA this weekend. I also noticed that the OG didn't make sense in BYO based on the grain bill. I calculated the OG at 1.076 based on the grain bill and 65% efficiency, which is 6 points higher than they state. I think there's a typo in the OG of the recipe, and assuming Zymurgy has the same grain bill, Zymurgy is correct.
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Bottle: English Barleywine, Avenger ESB, Skull Splitter APA, Spülbecken Black IPA, Cranberry Apfelwein, Drooling Moose Session ABA, Cascahrd SMaSH APA
On Deck: Skull Splitter APA II
This is an old thread, but I stumbled upon it because I'm brewing a CDA this weekend. I also noticed that the OG didn't make sense in BYO based on the grain bill. I calculated the OG at 1.076 based on the grain bill and 65% efficiency, which is 6 points higher than they state. I think there's a typo in the OG of the recipe, and assuming Zymurgy has the same grain bill, Zymurgy is correct.
Why is your efficiency so low? Is this all grain or partial? I think 1.075 is the maximum. Lets talk about this.b
This is an old thread, but I stumbled upon it because I'm brewing a CDA this weekend. I also noticed that the OG didn't make sense in BYO based on the grain bill. I calculated the OG at 1.076 based on the grain bill and 65% efficiency, which is 6 points higher than they state. I think there's a typo in the OG of the recipe, and assuming Zymurgy has the same grain bill, Zymurgy is correct.
This thread is so old that the name of this style has changed--enjoy your American-Style Black Ale.
Why is your efficiency so low? Is this all grain or partial? I think 1.075 is the maximum. Lets talk about this.b
I didn't actually brew the beer, but I was reading BYO to get a style description and some reference recipes. The Barley Brown one looked pretty good so I punched it into my brewing spreadsheet assuming 70% efficiency. I got a higher OG than the 1.070 than BYO called for. I basically left it at that and moved on with my recipe development.
Then I ran across this thread, which pointed out that the OG in Zymurgy was different than that in BYO. I did some research and found that BYO publishes their recipes with 65% efficiency. I punched 65% into my brewing spreadsheet and got 1.076. Surprisingly, that is exactly what the Zymurgy article states. Therefore, I think there's an error in the OG of the BYO recipe. They state 1.070 and the evidence leads me to believe that it should be 1.076.
Primary:
Bottle: English Barleywine, Avenger ESB, Skull Splitter APA, Spülbecken Black IPA, Cranberry Apfelwein, Drooling Moose Session ABA, Cascahrd SMaSH APA
On Deck: Skull Splitter APA II
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