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Old 03-19-2011, 08:59 AM   #21
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This is the type of story that realy make me tear up and hurts my heart! My thoughts go out to you my man. I have seen one of my best customers and great friend almost die from a glass carboy. It slipped while he was cleaning it, he tried to catch it. It broke and severed his wrist almost killing him. I have broke 1 and dont use them in my brewery at all. I have 3 kids and just dont see the need. I LOVE MY BUCKETS AND PET CARBOYS.
Man My heart goes out to you. Sad Sad story!
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:46 PM   #22
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These things don't just spontaneously explode. Well it might if you dump hot water into it. It's a big, heavy, awkward, object made of glass. Use appropriate caution and you'll be fine.

Sorry about the fatal accident. That really sucks.

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Old 03-19-2011, 07:30 PM   #23
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I am truly sorry to hear that your family had to endure such a tragic loss. With that being said and with all of the respect in the world, I have to disagree that a carboy should be classified as dangerous to own, let alone life threatening.

A glass carboy is perfectly safe as long as it is handled with care, moved with caution and stored thoughtfully. We live in a world where potential dangers are around every corner. If you start to dwell on the potential dangers in life, you are going to have to live in a padded room with a straight jacket on, as it might be the only truly safe place to you.

Again, I am not trying to disrespect the original poster or anyone in this thread but I think this topic gets way out of hand. This same conversation could be had about so many things that we use when we brew. How many houses have burned down because of propane burners? How many people are scalded by boiling water? How many people die of alcohol poisoning a year? As long as precautions are taken, the things I listed, and many other examples, are perfectly safe.

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Old 03-19-2011, 07:59 PM   #24
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Sorry to hear about your loss!

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Old 03-20-2011, 01:19 AM   #25
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Carboys are pretty safe until they are not: OP's brother wasn't exactly acting foolishly around the carboy. Buckets for me all the way: I have two carboys I bought for cheap when I started, anyone in the Quebec region can buy them from me for 10$ each.

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Old 03-20-2011, 05:25 PM   #26
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I use Better Bottles, but do have one glass carboy. My rules for handling it (in no particular order):

1. I always use a milk crate or BrewHauler to carry it.
2. I never handle it out of the crate with more than two or three quarts of liquid in it - I always siphon out most of the contents before picking it up and upending it to drain.
3. I don't handle it if my hands or the outside of the carboy is wet - dry off first.
4. I'm careful about thermal shock - hot liquid into a cold carboy or vice versa.
5. I'm damned careful not to bump it against anything while I'm holding it.
6. I don't pick it up and shake it to agitate - I only use this for seconday, but if I did use it for primary, then for aerating, I would use an airstone with pump or oxygen; for cleaning (after soaking) I put about a half gallon of cleaning solution in it, lay it on its side and roll it back and forth (this works well on my 5 gallon, don't know about the 6.5 gallon ones).
7. I don't handle it if I've been drinking.
I think I do the opposite of everyone of your points. Just getting into brewing beer and just bought a second glass carboy. I never knew there was such dangers. I have picked it up by the neck, full, shaking it. I will definitely handle with more care.
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I think one of the recurring themes in the posts I have seen where someone has gotten hurt, aside from the OP which was a freak accident is people trying to catch a carboy that they lost there grip on. I always keep in my mind when handling mine that if it starts to go I am not going to try and awkwardly catch it, I can clean up some broken glass. I am always ready to jump back out of the way. Also like others have said, use an egg crate or one of the strap harnesses made for carrying carboys and always have someone help you. I try to never lift a full carboy by myself and like I said if a carboy full or empty starts to get away from me I am jumping back.

Again not to downplay the OP's post but like others have said, if we dwell on the things all around us every day that could hurt us we wouldn't be able to function. He fell on that carboy and that is terrible but he just as easily could have slipped and hit his head on the bricks of the fireplace that carboy was sitting on and died from head trauma.

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I think one of the recurring themes in the posts I have seen where someone has gotten hurt, aside from the OP which was a freak accident is people trying to catch a carboy that they lost there grip on.
Here's an incident where the guy wasn't trying to catch a dropped carboy - this is why I don't pick up one with any appreciable amount of liquid in it and turn it up to drain:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/broke-carboy-today-123232/
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:20 PM   #29
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Here's an incident where the guy wasn't trying to catch a dropped carboy - this is why I don't pick up one with any appreciable amount of liquid in it and turn it up to drain:
Damn, the bottom just broke off with no clear reason?... scary. Looking at that thread Yooper said nearly the same thing happened to her friend.

That's another one of the reasons glass carboys scare me. Of course many say they're fine if you exercise proper caution, but what about in those instances where the person appeared to do nothing wrong. Obviously we weren't there so we don't know if there was any user error involved (water too hot, etc). But there does seem the potential for a defective product that doesn't appear defective in any way until something like that happens. While I have no problem with people's choices in using them I will say I'm glad that risk is out of the equation for my homebrewing - though of course there are always others. Can't escape all risk, but I definitely like to minimize it where I can if possible.


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This is the type of story that realy make me tear up and hurts my heart! My thoughts go out to you my man. I have seen one of my best customers and great friend almost die from a glass carboy. It slipped while he was cleaning it, he tried to catch it. It broke and severed his wrist almost killing him. I have broke 1 and dont use them in my brewery at all. I have 3 kids and just dont see the need. I LOVE MY BUCKETS AND PET CARBOYS.
Man My heart goes out to you. Sad Sad story!
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