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01-17-2012, 06:31 PM
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California Common with WLP001
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I wanted to brew a California Common, but accidentally used WLP001 instead of WLP810. It's currently fermenting at 58 F. I know it's still gonna make beer but I'm wondering if anyone has ever done this before or if anyone can tell me what difference to expect. I'm thinking about getting some WLP810 and doing a second batch to compare. Any thoughts?
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01-17-2012, 07:16 PM
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001 will still make a very clean beer at lower temps. The only thing I might do is raise the fermentation temp to about 62F. Fermenting that low might make the yeast drop out too early. Is 58F the ambient temp or the actual temp of the fermenting beer? Also, did you make a starter and oxygenate?
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01-17-2012, 08:05 PM
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WLP 810 is what makes a CC a CC. It's a hybrid yeast. It's technically an ale yeast but when it ferments, it gives lager-like characteristics. What you've brewed is essentially a pale ale. I'm sure it will be a good beer, but it just won't be a Cali Common without that yeast.
Edit: I like your idea of brewing an identical batch with the 810. Do it, and you'll see the difference. What was your recipe, by the way?
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01-17-2012, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KayaBrew
WLP 810 is what makes a CC a CC.
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yep. this is a style that is made by the yeast. using an ale strain in a common recipe will get you an amber ale. still a good beer, just not a cali common.
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01-17-2012, 09:03 PM
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Yeah, I guess it will be more "amber" than "pale". Good beer, in theory...
Jamil Z. says that a true CC, in addition to the yeast, is "made" by Northern Brewer hops. I brew my CC's to style with NB hops, but I'd like to brew one up with some Cascades or Centennials.
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01-17-2012, 10:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonK331
Is 58F the ambient temp or the actual temp of the fermenting beer? Also, did you make a starter and oxygenate?
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58 is the actual temp of the fermenting beer. I should be able to get this up a few degrees by moving it to a warmer spot. I did not make a starter (I know, I know...) but did oxygenate the wort.
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01-17-2012, 10:35 PM
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Actually steam beer is made with a lager yeast that ferments at ale temperatures. 58F might be too low for the WLP001. It may not attenuate all the way unless you bump the temperature to low to mid 60s.
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01-18-2012, 12:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KayaBrew
Yeah, I guess it will be more "amber" than "pale". Good beer, in theory...
Jamil Z. says that a true CC, in addition to the yeast, is "made" by Northern Brewer hops. I brew my CC's to style with NB hops, but I'd like to brew one up with some Cascades or Centennials.
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midwest has a cali common kit that uses citrus-y US hops instead of northern brewer hops.
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01-18-2012, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NordeastBrewer77
midwest has a cali common kit that uses citrus-y US hops instead of northern brewer hops.
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Weird.
Anchor Steam only uses NB hops, so any other isnt a "clone" if you care about that. BJCP style guidelines also call NB or similar rather than citrusy hops.
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01-18-2012, 03:02 AM
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Well, guess you didn't get up to Sonoma and/or Mendocino County to try the girlie brews here.
Yep, Russian River Pliny the Elder.. real girlie.
RR Blind Pig.. same
Bear Republic Racer V, Racer X, HopRod Rye, etc.. hmm.. pretty effeminate.
Anderson Valley Brewing Brother Davids Double and Brother Davids Triple... yep, you guessed it.. girlie..
Lagunitas IPA
North Coast Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout.. Oh gee....
On and on and on.
Love the WC brews.. and that's only the local to me stuff
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