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Jimmysbeer 02-03-2011 03:57 AM

Caffeine in my beer: What is illegal to sell and what isn't?
 
I realize that the FDA recently imposed a ban on beverages that contain alcohol and are infused with caffeine (4Loko, Moonshot). My question is what if the caffeine comes naturally from the manufacturing process and is below a certain amount (mg/12oz)?
I have already fermented homebrews with coffee and/or espresso beans and I'm sure there is some caffeine, but will this prevent me from selling this to local pubs or to a distributor?

MyNameIsPaul 02-03-2011 04:02 AM

Hope you're in for a long-ass night, bucko. I'll go ahead and just say what everyone else is going to. Go to probrewer.com It's illegal to sell homebrew, yada yada yada...

Jimmysbeer 02-03-2011 04:08 AM

I'm kinda past that, and now am dealing with contract brewers. I have recipes for beers involving caffeinated ingredients, but it's not a deliberate addition to the product and is not marketed as "caffeine beer." Just hoping for an idea of what constitutes the FDA's problem drinks.....

MyNameIsPaul 02-03-2011 04:14 AM

We make beer in buckets with toilet parts and coolers, this might not be the best place for you.

ProBrewer.com

I'm sure you can google FDA laws and ATF laws as well, my GoogleFu is out of whack today.

Jimmysbeer 02-03-2011 04:32 AM

Thanks

Shooter 02-03-2011 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyNameIsPaul (Post 2610231)
We make beer in buckets with toilet parts and coolers, this might not be the best place for you.

Hold on there, while I have certainly used a bucket or two as a fermenter I have never, and I repeat NEVER, used a cooler...:p

DizzyPants 02-03-2011 04:53 AM

MyNameIsPaul...that is very funny, and true. I am using all of that on Saturday w/o Caffeine.

MyNameIsPaul 02-03-2011 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shooter (Post 2610288)
Hold on there, while I have certainly used a bucket or two as a fermenter I have never, and I repeat NEVER, used a cooler...:p

Sorry Shooter! I don't mean to implicate the innocent!

I'm kind of tickled to see someone mention contract brewing a caffeinated beer, and mention MoonShot and 4Loko. Wasn't MoonShot a massive failure and isn't 4Loko marketed among the likes of Colt 45 and King Cobra? I shouldn't have sent him to probrewer.com, should have sent him to www.ThemRimsBeSpinninYo.com

northernlad 02-03-2011 05:03 AM

So its illegal to drink coffee while you are brewing?

MyNameIsPaul 02-03-2011 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DizzyPants (Post 2610289)
MyNameIsPaul...that is very funny, and true. I am using all of that on Saturday w/o Caffeine.

Me Too! I make pretty good beer with it too!


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