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01-29-2013, 09:35 PM
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Bulk age or bottle age.. that is the question
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Gonna make up a RIS 5 gallon batch in the next month and was wondering if it's best to bulk age or do it in bottles??
I've got about 40 bottles aging now but wonder if I should bulk age on the next batch?
Current coconut stout went 5+ weeks before it was bottled and has sat since then. Still needs to age.
So the question is bulk aging better than bottle aging and if so why??
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01-30-2013, 02:11 PM
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Nobodies got nuttin????
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01-30-2013, 02:17 PM
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For a big fat RIS, I like to bulk age for 4-6 months. Longer if you can stand it. They aren't going to be great until 9-12 months anyway so if you have the carboy space that is where I would do it. You may also get a more consistent batch this way vs bottles.
The only concern with a long bulk age in secondary is oxidation. I like to put a CO2 blanket on top (from my kegging setup) and then seal it up good with an airlock. Just have to remember to top up the airlock every month or two.
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01-30-2013, 02:44 PM
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So is it not a good idea to let it sit in a primary for that long?? Do I have to rack to secondary??
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01-30-2013, 02:48 PM
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Definitely. Even though I've kept a high gravity stout in primary for like 2 months, it's still much safer to rack to secondary after a couple of weeks of primary.
I couldn't tell you why bulk aging is better than aging in bottles. Seems to me it would be better to get the beer in bottles and carbed up rather than running the risk of not having enough viable yeast to do the job. The high gravity beers can be deadly to yeast. You might need to add fresh yeast at bottling time if all the yeast in the secondary are dead.
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01-30-2013, 02:53 PM
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not that long, racking to secondary for long term storage is ideal. you will start to get off flavors from the dead yeast if you are going for 6 months.
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01-30-2013, 03:00 PM
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Good info guys thanks.
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01-30-2013, 03:07 PM
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Bulk age, then bottle age. If you so desire you can bulk age in the primary ON the yeast for a long while. I wont tell you how long exactly but Ive bulk aged on the yeast for 7 months with no ill effects (autolysis or other bad flavor boogeymen).
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01-30-2013, 04:36 PM
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I was thinking along the lines of 2-3 months in primary then off to bottles for 4-6 months.
Which is the same thing I plan on doing with my Tripel that is currently in a primary.
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01-30-2013, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Biohazard
not that long, racking to secondary for long term storage is ideal. you will start to get off flavors from the dead yeast if you are going for 6 months.
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That's highly unlikely, especially given the experience of many members around here. In the years I've been on the forum, I don't think I have read any threads that were actually the result of autolysis.
That being said, I wouldn't intentionally leave a beer in primary for that long.
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