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Old 01-29-2013, 02:43 PM   #11
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2.5g batch
.75oz chinook at 60
.5oz citra 10min
.5oz citra 5min
1oz citra at flameout
DH with 2oz citra at 2 weeks for 1 week.
What are their alpha-acids percentages?
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:07 PM   #12
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Should be 12 to 14. I would think that would make a bitter beer. Have to control for extraction rates which I am too lazy to do right now.

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Old 01-29-2013, 03:25 PM   #13
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.75 oz of 12-14 AA for 60 is kinda high. Try a lower alpha hop or less of the higher alpha hop. For your recipe i would only do .33oz - .5oz that should fix you problem. The rest looks great.

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Old 01-29-2013, 03:27 PM   #14
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Are you sure bitterness is the flavor you are tasting?

Could be chlorephenols. Some water utilities change their levels of chloramine and chlorine seasonally. I also am of the opionion that hoppy beers bring out the phenols.


BTW, if that is indeed the issue no amount of aging will mellow them.

perhaps you got better attenuation with your yeast which threw off the balance.
perhaps the AA in the chinook were far higher due to a diff crop or freshness.
Did you bitter with chinook previously? It does have a harsher flavor than some bittering hops(I like it, some do not)

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Old 01-29-2013, 08:15 PM   #15
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I have bittered with Chinook before, with the same ratio but for a 5g batch. Couple different times actually.
Never thought of a season water variable.
This was a new yeasty to me. Notty for this one. Fermented at a steady 64, 5 days. Slowly raised to 70 for another week-ish. Att was higher than s05 for me. This finished at 1.012 compared to 18 or 20 for the safale. Less sweet, more bitter? 2nd batch in a row that wants to whiten my teeth...

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Old 01-29-2013, 08:50 PM   #16
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a FG of 18 or 20 would definitely balance out a lot more bitterness than a FG of 12. I believe you found your difference.

That will mellow out with time if it is indeed bitterness that is bothering you.

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Old 01-29-2013, 10:39 PM   #17
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I've heard different things from dif people. Bitter taste will mellow, or not? I know, for sure, that the aroma and flavor of the hops will fade. But the bitterness?

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Old 01-29-2013, 10:56 PM   #18
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Yep, all 3 will fade. Unfortunately not in the order you want. Aroma, flavor, then bitterness.

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Old 02-20-2013, 08:17 PM   #19
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Dug this one out.
I had a thought.
Since my late additions (esp flameout) didn't sit long, maybe I didn't get the flavor or aroma out of them. My chiller with my wicked cold tap water only took 6 or 7 minutes to get to pitching temp.
I'm reading about a whirlpool or hopstand at 170 degrees for a half hour.
Almost like I made a beer with bittering hops, and hardly anything later.
Am I dumb, or does that make sense?

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