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Old 10-03-2012, 12:15 AM   #11
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I believe it only takes a simple blood test to determine if he is suffering from celiac disease (causes problems with gluten). Might be worth a shot.

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Old 10-03-2012, 12:17 AM   #12
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Dandelions?? Walnut leaves?

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Old 10-03-2012, 12:33 AM   #13
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If you can find it at your local bottle shop, try Fraoch Scottish ale. It's a commercial gruit, brewed with heather if I remember correctly, and it's pretty tasty. No hops means no skunkiness so that's a bonus.

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Old 10-03-2012, 05:02 PM   #14
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I believe it only takes a simple blood test to determine if he is suffering from celiac disease (causes problems with gluten). Might be worth a shot.
He can eat bread, Vital Wheat Gluten (we're vegetarian and that's a staple of ours) and have ciders of all sorts with yeast in it, so we can only think that it's the hops, because the process of elimination ... well eliminate the hops and there's no symptoms.

Someone said that it's a hangover, well from three to four beers? lol I don't think so
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:18 PM   #15
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GRUIT is what you're looking for. You'll want to start with checking out www.gruitale.com. It's a really good site, lots of info, some recipes. Google is your best friend when it comes to finding the various herbs, but here are a few starting points: Penzy's, Wild Weeds, Thyme Garden Herb Co., and Wilderness Family Naturals.

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Old 10-03-2012, 05:25 PM   #16
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I just did a beer for my girlfriend Heather with heather tips. It came out great. Quite floral and beautiful smelling and tasting. Give it a try. If you want the recipe I used, let me know.

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Old 10-03-2012, 05:31 PM   #17
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I just did a beer for my girlfriend Heather with heather tips. It came out great. Quite floral and beautiful smelling and tasting. Give it a try. If you want the recipe I used, let me know.
I would be interested in taking a look at this recipe if you don't mind.
I have been mildly interested in alternatives to hops, not for any particular reason moreso for the ability to have options available.
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:33 PM   #18
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Agreed... Your looking for Gruit. You use herbs such as; Bog Myrtle, Heather, Wormswood, Labrador, Rosemary, Mugwort, and Yarrow to name a few. And on that note I'll just put out there... Bog Myrtle and Elderberries pair really damn well. Just be very careful how much herbs you use. Many of them are very powerful with psychotropic effects if used in large enough quantities.

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Old 10-03-2012, 05:51 PM   #19
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There are piles of recipes without hops floating around. My wife got me the book Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers. The recipes are pretty gross and there are some dubious claims about the healing properties of the herbs involved - but the background on historical herbal use in beers is really great. Most of the beers in the book are based around molasses - which is pretty traditional for early american brewing. Substituting a "real" beer recipe for that portion and using the herbal parts of the recipes might be really good.

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Recipes please....psychotropic isn't all that bad in moderation

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