The movie is extremely misleading IMO*. As always, educate yourself and think for yourself. Michael Moore might have some good points but if your opinion of health care is based entirely on his movie you probably sound like a huge idiot to anyone who knows what they are talking about.
*A good example would be in leading people to believe that all non brewpub beer is distributed via the three tier system, far from the truth.
AB became one of the biggest breweries in the nation through some real brewing innovations (refrigerated box cars, pasteurization, etc.) but their behavior has long since become anticompetitive.
Read "Ambitious Brew" by Maureen Ogle. They have always been anti-competitive. They just now have the weight to make it stick.
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The movie is extremely misleading IMO*. As always, educate yourself and think for yourself. Michael Moore might have some good points but if your opinion of health care is based entirely on his movie you probably sound like a huge idiot to anyone who knows what they are talking about.
*A good example would be in leading people to believe that all non brewpub beer is distributed via the three tier system, far from the truth.
No, some states allow brewers to be two parts of the three tier system as the distributors/warehouse and in other Liquor control states, like Michigan with hard liquor, the state itself is the middleman.
Even if there is an agent acting as two of the three tiers, it is still a three tier system.
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Instead of PROMOTING what the "little guy" is doing -- it's a bunch of whining about how the big 3 are cheating.
I'd rather have seen a documentary on the innovations in craft brewing and building a quality "smaller brand" brewery like DFH/Rogue/Stone.
I would like to have seen something on the cool/strange brew styles that they are making.
What a waste of my time. I gave up about an hour in because of all the crying.
That said, most of the parts on Sam were very cool, it's just the rest that sucked.
I was going to write something but this pretty much fit what I had to say. This thing was a hit piece. I just didn't enjoy it. It reminded me of The Future of Food. With that one I thought I was getting a documentary about the cool stuff farmers are doing now to make food better in the future. Instead, I got some slanted whine-fest about a particular seed supplier. The problem I have with this sort of "documentary" is that you can't trust a source that has no intention of treating the other side fairly.
It's not a documentary. Documentaries are where all sides are represented and facts (and sometimes myths and half-truths) are presented and debated.
This was pure propaganda, which is EXACTLY what they're crying about from the big 3 and their propaganda machines.
Leaves the industry (and those that participated - luckily very few craft breweries) looking like a bunch of brats.
They also made a POOR choice of using "Moonshot" or whatever that garbage was. It was a less than stellar idea for a beer, and her crying about B^E stealing her idea and putting it to market was just lame. They are a brewery focused on ONE beer, one which has already hit the market. And a bad idea anyways. It's like they watched that Drew Carey show where they made Buzz brew and waited another 5 years to actually bring a dumb idea to market.
If anything, showing Moonshot was BAD for craft brews.
It's not a documentary. Documentaries are where all sides are represented and facts (and sometimes myths and half-truths) are presented and debated.
This was pure propaganda, which is EXACTLY what they're crying about from the big 3 and their propaganda machines.
Leaves the industry (and those that participated - luckily very few craft breweries) looking like a bunch of brats.
They also made a POOR choice of using "Moonshot" or whatever that garbage was. It was a less than stellar idea for a beer, and her crying about B^E stealing her idea and putting it to market was just lame. They are a brewery focused on ONE beer, one which has already hit the market. And a bad idea anyways. It's like they watched that Drew Carey show where they made Buzz brew and waited another 5 years to actually bring a dumb idea to market.
If anything, showing Moonshot was BAD for craft brews.
Can you explain how it was "pure propaganda?" That's exactly the type of stupid statement that you're criticizing this movie for.
You, along with a lot of other people, need to learn how to properly view or read sources. You're exactly the type of person who probably whined and screamed about fahrenheit 911. Documentaries are supposed to be factually accurate, yet OHMYGOD, sometimes they don't present all the facts. I can't think of a documentary I've seen in the last five years besides a nature show that wasn't trying to persuade.
When you have an agenda, you have a bias, but I really hate that term because it is used to devalue and discredit constantly. If we threw out anything that's biased, we'd throw out practically every primary source document in existence, and the profession of historian would cease to exist.
It's up to viewers to question. Another perfect illustration of this flawed approach is wikipedia. Because it's not perfect, should we throw it away? Read responsibly, goddamnit.
When you boil it down, AB is an aggressive corporation that is totally hostile to anyone who could be a potential competitor, even if that potential is pitifully low. While Beer Wars certainly was biased, there is definitely more than an element of truth to the movie.
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Can you explain how it was "pure propaganda?" That's exactly the type of stupid statement that you're criticizing this movie for.
You, along with a lot of other people, need to learn how to properly view or read sources. You're exactly the type of person who probably whined and screamed about fahrenheit 911. Documentaries are supposed to be factually accurate, yet OHMYGOD, sometimes they don't present all the facts. I can't think of a documentary I've seen in the last five years besides a nature show that wasn't trying to persuade.
When you have an agenda, you have a bias, but I really hate that term because it is used to devalue and discredit constantly. If we threw out anything that's biased, we'd throw out practically every primary source document in existence, and the profession of historian would cease to exist.
It's up to viewers to question. Another perfect illustration of this flawed approach is wikipedia. Because it's not perfect, should we throw it away? Read responsibly, goddamnit.
When you boil it down, AB is an aggressive corporation that is totally hostile to anyone who could be a potential competitor, even if that potential is pitifully low. While Beer Wars certainly was biased, there is definitely more than an element of truth to the movie.
First of all, I don't whine or scream about movies. This was a film put on by craft breweries for the SOLE PURPOSE of discrediting the big 3. They put forward very little about what the small brewer is actually doing to compete, or the positive factors involved. It was just a smear campaign.
I hate the big 3 as much as anyone, but coming off as a bunch of whiny brats isn't a good way to get the word out about small craft brewing.
Read "Ambitious Brew" by Maureen Ogle. They have always been anti-competitive. They just now have the weight to make it stick.
I have read it, I just didn't want to get too far off topic and bring the discusison back to brewery controlled beer gardens and taverns and the pre-prohibtion marketplace. But your point about scale is well taken.
Can you explain how it was "pure propaganda?" That's exactly the type of stupid statement that you're criticizing this movie for.
You, along with a lot of other people, need to learn how to properly view or read sources. You're exactly the type of person who probably whined and screamed about fahrenheit 911. Documentaries are supposed to be factually accurate, yet OHMYGOD, sometimes they don't present all the facts. I can't think of a documentary I've seen in the last five years besides a nature show that wasn't trying to persuade.
When you have an agenda, you have a bias, but I really hate that term because it is used to devalue and discredit constantly. If we threw out anything that's biased, we'd throw out practically every primary source document in existence, and the profession of historian would cease to exist.
It's up to viewers to question. Another perfect illustration of this flawed approach is wikipedia. Because it's not perfect, should we throw it away? Read responsibly, goddamnit.
When you boil it down, AB is an aggressive corporation that is totally hostile to anyone who could be a potential competitor, even if that potential is pitifully low. While Beer Wars certainly was biased, there is definitely more than an element of truth to the movie.
It's ok to have an agenda. But if you want to actually convince someone of something then you need to be your own harshest critic. Until then, you are just preaching to a choir. But preaching to a choir is where documentaries make their money these days. Those things you're watching aren't trying to persuade. They're just trying to make you feel good about positions you've already taken.
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