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I forgot that I started this thread a long time ago. I've been collecting links over the years because of my interest in beer history as well as research for the book I'm doing on the breweries in Michigan's thumb. I'm going to pull all my links together in this thread for you guys. I'm gonna put them in initially in no particular order, but over the next few days put them in some form of chronological order. Hope you find these helpful. If you have others pm me and I will add them.
Kai Troester's site on German Brewing Techniques.
Beer in the later 1800's in the New York area
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8633
http://www.beerhistory.com/library/
http://www.falstaffbrewing.com/interest.htm
http://www.falstaffbrewing.com/ballantine_ale.htm
"American Beer - 1908, A series of "Letters to the Editor" sent to the New York Sun newspaper." All about beer and the brewing industry in NY in 1908
http://jesskidden.googlepages.com/19082
Draft Beer in 1903
http://jesskidden.googlepages.com/draftbeerin1903
The Brunswick Pilsners (Pre-prohibition) with recipes
http://brewingtechniques.com/library/backissues/issue2.1/jankowski.html
Here's some good info on porters and the development of that style.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/historical-porter-some-recipes-199576/
This is a great site on English Brewing styles.
http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/search/label/Let%27s%20Brew
Here is some of my ancient brewing info..
You might find this interesting.
The Yeast of the Ancients
(It's kinda new agey, but has some interesting info that could provide hours of interesting googling.)
Why brewing ancient Egyptian-style beer is so popular & how to make it
The maltose falcons had a great article on brewing with Bappir, but it looks like they're redoing their site and the old links don't work.
Found it http://archive.maltosefalcons.com/recipes/20051002.php
Some of my stuff is on that is here http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/brewing-bread-209505/#post2459997
Here's a bit on Partigyling for instance. http://www.byo.com/component/resource/article/2021-parti-gyle-brewing-techniques
"The Good, The Bad, and the Belly: The Facts About Ancient Beer."
The Hymn to Ninkasi outlines the oldest brewing technique recorded. http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/new-beer-tv-show-discovery-how-beer-saved-world-221520/index2.html#post2599137
Bronze age Irish Brewing info
If you find thread interesting and helpful, hit Prost. Maybe it can be stickified.
A thread on early New York Ales.
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03-07-2008, 07:45 PM
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I didn't know that Ballantine's produced the first american IPA, and what sounded like a great american ale. I wonder if anyone's come up with clones of them, since we'll never get to taste them, especially how they evidently used to taste before all the corporate takeovers and such.
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I recall reading here (HBT) that someone met a Ballentine local old-timer and tried to recreate some style of theirs, using this guy's input, without much success.
EDIT: The Falstaff move was the kiss of death form what i read.
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03-07-2008, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by beergears
I recall reading here (HBT) that someone met a Ballentine local old-timer and tried to recreate some style of theirs, using this guy's input, without much success.
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I googled looking for some recipes, and only found one, and it didn't seem all that great (I think it was made with a can of cooper's extract.)
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03-07-2008, 08:19 PM
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Here's an interesting recipe... George Washington's Beer...
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George Washington's Recipe for Beer
George Washington was a devout beer lover. In particular, he was fond of the dark, English-style brew known as porter, and always demanded that an ample supply of it be kept on hand at Mount Vernon, his Virginia estate. However, it was not porter, but rather "small beer," for which Washington once recorded an early recipe. Preserved in the manuscript collections of the New York Public Library is a notebook kept by Washington, which includes the following hand-written recipe.
"To Make Small Beer
Take a large Siffer [Sifter] full of Bran Hops to your Taste. -- Boil these 3 hours then strain out 30 Gall[ons] into a cooler put in 3 Gall[ons] Molasses while the Beer is Scalding hot or rather draw the Melasses into the cooler & St[r]ain the Beer on it while boiling Hot. let this stand till it is little more than Blood warm then put in a quart of Yea[s]t if the Weather is very Cold cover it over with a Blank[et] & let it Work in the Cooler 24 hours then put it into the Cask -- leave the bung open till it is almost don[e] Working -- Bottle it that day Week it was Brewed."
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Which reminds me of the Rich Wagner Historical brewing program in PA, as chronicled on youtube.
Some little puff piece on it.
More about Rich Wagner's work
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art64142.asp
http://pabreweryhistorians.tripod.com/trackingleg.htm
http://historiccamdencounty.com/ccnews116.shtml
A huge site on Pennsylvania Brewing history
http://pabreweryhistorians.tripod.com/
Google books
Yuengling: A History of America's Oldest Brewery
Pennsylvania Breweries By Lew Bryson
New York Breweries By Lew Bryson
A history of beer and brewing
By Ian Spencer Hornsey, Royal Society of Chemistry (Great Britain)
Cincinnati's Brewing History
By Sarah Stephens
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03-12-2011, 03:30 AM
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American Handy Book of the Brewing, Malting & Auxiliary Trades, Wahl & Henius, 1902.
Origin and History of Beer and Brewing, John P. Arnold, 1911 (reprint 2005)
The Closet of Sir Kenelm Digby Knight Opened, Kenelm Digby (take at look at the HTML version, it has illustrations)
Also search BeerBooks.com. They have a lot of rare & historical brewing books.[/QUOTE]
The work of Patrick McGovern is fascinating as well. He's the one who advises Sam Caligione on his historical beer recreations.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/history/did-a-thirst-for-beer-spark-civilization-1869187.html
http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520267985
Looks like he has a blog http://www.penn.museum/sites/biomoleculararchaeology/?page_id=69
Here's some more stuff on the King Midas and Bappir bread brewing
Here is a downloadable MS Word article and recipe for another version of it http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBwQFjAB&url=http%3A %2F%2Fwww.mongiovi.net%2Fchuck%2Fbrewing%2Fninkasi %2Fdocumentation.doc&rct=j&q=bappir&ei=0dL-TMojwv-cB8SUqbUJ&usg=AFQjCNGHRX-RzNMG7wHQCMH1hbf16sm8PQ&cad=rja
Theres also the Beer from King Mida's Tomb, that Dogfish Head Replicated, "Mida's Touch" you're interested in the history, here's some articles on the original discovery and the deconstructing of the ingredients and reproducing the funeral feast.
http://www.penn.museum/sites/Midas/intro.shtml
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3469/is_45_53/ai_94673455
Here's some stuff on historical brewing in North America
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/historic-brewing-bethlehem-pa-126996/#post1434880
Here's my walk through of the original Labatt Pioneer Brewery in London Ontario.
Here's some brewing instructions for the UK in 1861 http://brewery.org/brewery/library/Per1861UK.html
This is an archive of historical brewing technique articles as well. Interesting one on Brunswick pilsners which I never heard of and were hoppier than the BMC of today. http://brewingtechniques.com/library/history.html
This is a really cool archive of brewing techniques magazines, which actually does cover historical technigues. CLick on each issue, and there's a few articles in each archived online. I just read a good one in issue 3 or 4 on porters through time. http://brewingtechniques.com/library/backissues.html
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03-12-2011, 04:00 AM
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03-12-2011, 02:54 PM
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I gotta tell ya, just between us girls, that Revvy is HOT. Very tall, gorgeous grey hair and a terrific smile. He's very good looking in person, with a charismatic personality... he drives like a ****ing maniac! - YooperBrew
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03-12-2011, 03:09 PM
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Wow, thanx for keeping this up to date, I haven't seen over half of these links!! Oh and glad to see you're back at it Revvy, brew on sir 
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03-13-2011, 01:02 AM
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Shut up About Barclay Perkins is a pretty awesome. Clearly not about American beer, Ron's site European Beer Guide is full of awesome too.
[Edit] Now I'm reading Brewed in Detroit. The Four Polish Brothers chapter is missing some pages (or at least they're not available). I wonder if a local library would have a copy.
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