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Old 02-08-2010, 07:47 PM   #71
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...Drink what you like. ....
Completely agree with this. My issue is with all the people who think everything Macro is crap, and everything Micro is gold just because its micro. Its indy syndrome. There are a lot of terrible microbrews out there.
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:49 PM   #72
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Unfortunately, the richest usually get their way. What the government is doing is IMHO nothing short of bribery. If you can take that and say "oh well, you don't like it YOU can try to bribe them"... well I guess we can end this conversation.
That's capitalism. Most people seem to think completely free trade (which includes rigging the game to favor yourself) is a good thing.


(I'm not sure I agree, btw)
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:29 PM   #73
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Pepsi and Coke do the same thing with marketing,distribution and shelf space. Why not boycott them? Ooooh ya not many of make our own sodas . I will drink a Miller or a Coors product without shame at times they fit the activity. I don't like Bud so I don't drink it.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:33 PM   #74
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I was 20 minutes into that movie when I read the thread. I'm holding off brewing until I can start kegging, but I see what your gettin at. I'm milking the last of my bottles for as long as I can, then I'll be back to buying commercial.
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That's capitalism. Most people seem to think completely free trade (which includes rigging the game to favor yourself) is a good thing.


(I'm not sure I agree, btw)
No offense, but that's not free trade. Free trade does NOT include rigging the game. Unfortunately, that the bastardized free trade that we now enjoy here in America.
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No offense, but that's not free trade. Free trade does NOT include rigging the game. Unfortunately, that the bastardized free trade that we now enjoy here in America.
Free trade, IE, unfettered capitalism, involves those most fit to do business making the most money. Investing in tuning the business environment to your better is most certainly within the confines of capitalism.


What people prefer to call "free trade" isn't really free trade at all. Free Trade has no rules. We don't want actual free trade.


You can't hate monopolies and talk about "true capitalism". Monopolies are ALWAYS the end product of unfettered capitalism.
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I think you may be bringing this up to the wrong crowd. It is far too easy for use to boycott BMC. I haven't purchased a BMC product or any of its other brands in several years, I also don't buy boxed mac 'n cheese anymore. My taste buds have changed.
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Unfortunately, the richest usually get their way. What the government is doing is IMHO nothing short of bribery. If you can take that and say "oh well, you don't like it YOU can try to bribe them"... well I guess we can end this conversation.
Call it what you will in our system it's officially called a contribution.

And I'm not saying "oh well" I am saying if you don't like it DO something to change it. If you don't have money you may have time. There is some contribution anyone and everyone can make to effect change even if it is only to vote.

But in our current system a corporation is simply an entity comprised of people organized to make money. And anyone can lobby for legislation they deem desirable or against what they consider harmful. It's as easy to write your congressman as it is to post on this site.

I wrote the governor of my fair state and asked him to veto a bill passed by the Georgia legislature. And he did! Was it on the force of my agrument alone, I seriouly doubt it. But I may have contributed in some small way in effectively blocking a harmful bill from becoming law.
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Free trade, IE, unfettered capitalism, involves those most fit to do business making the most money. Investing in tuning the business environment to your better is most certainly within the confines of capitalism.


What people prefer to call "free trade" isn't really free trade at all. Free Trade has no rules. We don't want actual free trade.


You can't hate monopolies and talk about "true capitalism". Monopolies are ALWAYS the end product of unfettered capitalism.
Who is "we"? I sure hope you aren't lumping me in that category.
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If that movie twists your knickers then watch these:

King Corn
Food Inc.

I was pissed and sick after food Inc.
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