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Old 10-03-2013, 01:30 AM   #1
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I really like the show I find the science behind how things like chair hight and lighting can affect how much money the bar can make, it's interesting but what I can't wrapt head around is why the owners ask the host for help then argue with him.

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Old 10-03-2013, 01:34 AM   #2
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Drama, drama, drama. Either that or the owner just wants the makeover and does not want to think that they such as a owner.

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Old 10-03-2013, 01:40 AM   #3
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In sure a lot of it is probably staged but if its not how could you argue with an expert in your field when your losing thousands a month when he's trying to help

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Anyone catch that is it almost always a 30% increase in sales? If the place was going under with nobody in it then being packed now should be higher then 30%

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Old 10-03-2013, 01:54 AM   #5
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Anyone catch that is it almost always a 30% increase in sales? If the place was going under with nobody in it then being packed now should be higher then 30%
I'm sure they take an average of the first 2-3 months after they re-open. Increasing foot traffic may be more difficult than increasing sales. If you keep traffic the same, and your guests buy an extra drink, maybe that's enough. I've never thought about those places being packed, wall to wall, after they re-open. I just don't think it can happen. There is always a stigma associated with a dumpy, gross bar.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:06 AM   #6
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I saw an episode last weekend for a gay bar where the owner closed the bar three days after the show. Fired all the employees and closed up. I bet John Taffer was pissed after investing the time and energy into revitalizing it just so the owner could walk out.

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Old 10-03-2013, 03:15 AM   #7
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I really like the show. As for why some of the Owners argue with him, it might not have been the owner who made the original overture to the show. Sometimes it seems like an employee was the one that made the original request and the owners just sorta go along with it. Plus if these owners had any idea of what they were doing they would not be in the spots they are so it makes sense they would not see the benefits and not see what they are doing wrong.

As for the 30% increases in sales, the show is not silver built. The owners might not fully implement the changes, the managers might still be sub-par, the waitstaff might now be able to pull of the new ideas, people might be slow in giving the place a second chance.

I would like to see a craft beer bar on there sometime and not just cocktail or whiskey joints.

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Old 10-03-2013, 12:45 PM   #8
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I would like to see a craft beer bar on there sometime and not just cocktail or whiskey joints.
A big reason they do liquor joints is that spirits have a higher profit margin than beer
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Old 10-03-2013, 01:20 PM   #9
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How do you suppose, at the beginning of the show, they get all the "candid" shots? Sure, they show some cameras in the ceiling they claim to have installed, but the shots are taken from eye level. Even the people they send in early to see whats going on, you get a shot of their face at the bar. I don't doubt some of the drama is real or that the stuff actually happens, but some of it is just acting and playing a role to generate viewership. Hell, it's probably part of the agreement that you need to act like a jerk.

I still like it though.

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I like the show too, although I think 95% of it is staged "drama".

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