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Old 09-10-2012, 03:00 PM   #1
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Default Anyone brewed a beer only using FWH and Whirpool additions?

Im going to give it a whirl on one of my next IPA's and was curious if anyone has tried this.

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Old 09-10-2012, 03:02 PM   #2
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While I've never done it I'll be curious to see how it goes for you. I'd be really interested to know what kind of beer you get out of it. There are a couple of pros who do something like that so I figure there must be something to it, right?

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Old 09-10-2012, 03:04 PM   #3
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I believe Stone adds all their flavor and aroma hops in the whirlpool. I think they add hops at 90 though, not FWH.

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This is covered in Brewing Better Beer by Gordon Strong. So, I'd venture to guess that he does it.

I do a FWH, 20 min and FO addition on my APA. It's plenty bitter, if that's what you're worried about.

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I'm not worried about anything . Just prompting conversation as I plan my next brew, instead of working. Im thinking of making this a 1.045ish OG "session-able IPA" with citra/simcoe. Actually Im thinking some Nelson Savin too, since I went a little overboard purchasing them, especially for the dry hop.

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Here is what I am thinking

8 lbs 2 row
8 oz Crystal 40
8 oz Carafoam
4 oz melanoidin
8 oz corn sugar(add during boil)

mash 153 60 min

FWH 1 oz each Citra and Simcoe

Aroma Steep, 1 oz each Citra, Simcoe, Nelson Sauvin

WLP002

Dry Hop, 10 days 1 oz each Nelson, Citra, Simcoe


est OG 1.046
Est FG 1. 011

IBU 66.8(i dont like the way beersmith calculates FWH IBUs)


Should I decrease the amount of simcoe(especially with the steep and dry hop) so it doesnt take over?

I love simcoe, and while I like it full on I have found I love it as a supporting cast member.

Any other changes you would recommend?

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Nelson will probably dominate more than the Simcoe - i've brewed an ipa with those 3 before, 1oz each at 20min and 1oz each at flameout and dryhop in keg - delicious but the Nelson is still the most noticeable

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I would replace the corn sugar with enough base malt to cover the lost gravity points. I only use a simple sugar like that in a really big beer that I want to dry out more. With a starting gravity that low, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to get the beer down to 1.011 with all malt. It might not make a huge flavor difference, but I like my beers to be malty with a fair bit of body to them. I'm by no means an expert, though. You should brew how you want.

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Honestly, I think that a 1 oz. of both of those hops for FWH is going to be entirely way too bitter for a Pale Ale. Depending on AA%, of course.

My house pale ale is still a work in progress, but where I have it now, it is WAY too bitter for an APA. Here's my general recipe:

8# 2-row
3# Munich
1/2# C80
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0.25 oz (each) Galaxy @ 12.8% and Centennial @ 8.7% - FWH
0.50 oz (each) Galaxy @ 12.8% and Centennial @ 8.7% - 20 minutes
1.00 oz (each) Galaxy @ 12.8% and Centennial @ 8.7% - 5 minutes
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OG: 1.053
FG: 1.011

I can't find a consensus on how to calculate FWH IBUs, but using 90 minutes boil that brings me to ~60 IBUs. And drinking it yesterday, I need to tone it down a notch - not balanced, very bitter. I may just remove the 20 minute addition for my next go around.

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I did a partial mash pale ale with Fwh, 20, 10, flameout. Each 1 oz total (4 oz for the whole batch). Best hop flavor I have ever gotten. Even got 1st place overall at a homebrew competition.

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