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Old 01-04-2012, 01:29 PM   #11
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More of us to help out the smaller breweries and ourselves against the commercialized BS of the big three BMC,and create REAL beers with flavor,aroma and character.
I hate to break it to you but Bud light IS a "real" beer, whether you want to acknowledge the fact or not. When you struggle with cloning it, and if you ever master it, you'll maybe appreciate that it's one of the most difficult beers to brew. Since EVERY flaw in it is perceivable.

And also a lot of folks on here think beer is beer, and ALL beer is good, whether we choose to drink it or not. We acknowledge the history of those big breweries, and understand that without the contributions of the Busch's, the Miller and Coor's family and all those early brewers which STILL managed to survive prohibition, we would not have the craft industry that we enjoy today.

You actually will be surprised how few folks actually agree with you, and how many will turn their noses down at bud bashing threads.

You might find this thread enlightening......
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Old 01-04-2012, 01:29 PM   #12
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Well, here are two starting points:
BeerTools.com Recipe Library - Tim's Bud Light Clone
TastyBrew.com | Recipes

I've wanted to make a light session beer myself, not trying to clone bud light, but something along the lines of some of the milds I've done, but even lighter and higher carbonation. I've got something like 20 pounds of basmati rice tempting me in the cupboard. I've eyed this recipe a bit and is something I want to try...
Basmati Pale Ale
I think I'll give that one a shot too. Let you know how it comes out.
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:35 PM   #13
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I hate to break it to you but Bud light IS a "real" beer, whether you want to acknowledge the fact or not. When you struggle with cloning it, and if you ever master it, you'll maybe appreciate that it's one of the most difficult beers to brew. Since EVERY flaw in it is perceivable.

And also a lot of folks on here think beer is beer, and ALL beer is good, whether we choose to drink it or not. We acknowledge the history of those big breweries, and understand that without the contributions of the Busch's, the Miller and Coor's family and all those early brewers which STILL managed to survive prohibition, we would not have the craft industry that we enjoy today.

You actually will be surprised how few folks actually agree with you, and how many will turn their noses down at bud bashing threads.

You might find this thread enlightening......
+1, I'm a long way from a "beer snob", probably never going to brew whole grain, and I have never really drank a BMC by choice (I used to drink Stroh's when I was a kid because they came in 6 packs and I could joke that I was drinking a pair of s'hortS before I went to the bar). But I LIKE BEER! There is a place for all beer, just because the taste doesn't suit me doesn't make it unsuitable for somebody else.

It's like music really. I like what I like, you like what you like. If you don't get why I don't like it I don't lose sleep, and you shouldn't worry about my choice either.

The disheartening thing about this forum for me, as a new brewer, is how quickly the "learned" pounce on the average joe who wants to have fun and experiment with something they like: beer. We all come to this site for the same reason, whether we want to brew a cheap kit and kilo or try to match a recipe for some obscure small brewery brew we had once on a vacation through Belgium.

Hahahaha! Why can't we all just get along?
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:26 PM   #14
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I hate to break it to you but Bud light IS a "real" beer, whether you want to acknowledge the fact or not. When you struggle with cloning it, and if you ever master it, you'll maybe appreciate that it's one of the most difficult beers to brew. Since EVERY flaw in it is perceivable.

And also a lot of folks on here think beer is beer, and ALL beer is good, whether we choose to drink it or not. We acknowledge the history of those big breweries, and understand that without the contributions of the Busch's, the Miller and Coor's family and all those early brewers which STILL managed to survive prohibition, we would not have the craft industry that we enjoy today.

You actually will be surprised how few folks actually agree with you, and how many will turn their noses down at bud bashing threads.

You might find this thread enlightening......
I'm sorry you mistook that as "Bud bashing". I am a fan of bud. Not bud light, Or any light beer for that matter. I'm also not a fan of crushing the hopes and dreams of the small American brewer just because you are greedy and have the money to. All beer is good,but I am entitled to my opinion and I very much respect yours. With that said if you want to drink BMC why home brew? I'm not denying BMC are good beers just not a fan of corporate cutthroats. IMHO most light beer(bud light) is lacking in character and aroma. So when I say "Real beer" it has nothing to do with the label or the brewer. As far as how many people agree with me, I could care less. Just like you I want to make great beer and have a good time doing it. You can't change my opinions but you can help me to become a better brewer,and that's why I got on here is to learn from others and to share what I know.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:43 PM   #15
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7 lbs 6-row
Err on the low side for the hops and this should get you close. Substitute corn for the rice and BOOM you have Miller Lite.

I doubt it, Miller light is full of stablizers, food coloring and preservatives. Plus it's drier than other light beers so I'm sure there's some sort of sugar addition. Or maybe it's dried out with enzymes after fermentation?
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I doubt it, Miller light is full of stablizers, food coloring and preservatives. Plus it's drier than other light beers so I'm sure there's some sort of sugar addition. Or maybe it's dried out with enzymes after fermentation?
Corn sugar or syrup maybe?
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try this recipe and just tell him it's a BL clone:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f62/mill...hopped-123937/

this puts out a nice, easy drinking beer.

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try this recipe and just tell him it's a BL clone:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f62/mill...hopped-123937/

this puts out a nice, easy drinking beer.
I saw that earlier. I think I will try that one anyway. Most light beers just don't do it for me,but that one looks like it has good hop aroma & flavor. Thanks for the tip.
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I hate to break it to you but Bud light IS a "real" beer, whether you want to acknowledge the fact or not. When you struggle with cloning it, and if you ever master it, you'll maybe appreciate that it's one of the most difficult beers to brew. Since EVERY flaw in it is perceivable.

And also a lot of folks on here think beer is beer, and ALL beer is good, whether we choose to drink it or not. We acknowledge the history of those big breweries, and understand that without the contributions of the Busch's, the Miller and Coor's family and all those early brewers which STILL managed to survive prohibition, we would not have the craft industry that we enjoy today.

You actually will be surprised how few folks actually agree with you, and how many will turn their noses down at bud bashing threads.

You might find this thread enlightening......
It's brewed by a computer, and just monitored by the brewer. I know you hate when people bash it, but it's industrialized swill. McDonalds can reproduce their crap in any of their locations all around the world. A feat no less difficult. A technological marvel maybe, but it doesn't make McDonalds good food, and it doesn't make Bud good beer.
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It's brewed by a computer, and just monitored by the brewer. I know you hate when people bash it, but it's industrialized swill. McDonalds can reproduce their crap in any of their locations all around the world. A feat no less difficult. A technological marvel maybe, but it doesn't make McDonalds good food, and it doesn't make Bud good beer.
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If someone likes X-Light, good for them. I don't really care. My problem is with people who aren't at all willing to try anything different. I frequent a bar that features 60 beers on tap and 300+ in bottles. Yet, there are groups of people, most often Marines, who come in and order a bunch of Bud Light. The only reason they're there is to chase stupid townies and college girls who don't know any better.

While I do dislike the beer and some of the business practices, I accept its existence and the fact that people drink it. It has it's place. So does craft beer. And, if you're in a place that specializes in craft beer, I will judge you if you order a mass produced light lager.

Now, as for a homebrewed light lager, I'd advise not trying to replicate BMC Light. It's cheap enough. Put a twist on it of some sort.
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