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Old 03-11-2012, 12:00 AM   #1
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Default Any reason why you can't mash using hot fruit juice?

I was thinking of doing a apple barleywine or something along those lines. I can't see how different hot apple juice would be from water, except for pH. If I made changes to the schedule to lower pH or to cause the pH to not be risen, would it work?

I would just make the cider and barleywine separately, but then blending them would make it a weaker beverage than I was looking for.

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There's an episode of Basic Brewing on Youtube where they replace the water with watermelon juice and make a wheat beer. It looked pretty neat.

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It'll have a pectin haze unless you add pectinase

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There's an episode of Basic Brewing on Youtube where they replace the water with watermelon juice and make a wheat beer. It looked pretty neat.
If I remember correctly, it didn't work out as planned. I can't recall if it actually messed up the beer, or if they just couldn't taste the watermelon, either way it was better just to use water.
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If I remember correctly, it didn't work out as planned. I can't recall if it actually messed up the beer, or if they just couldn't taste the watermelon, either way it was better just to use water.
Yeah, I listened to the podcast when they talked about it. It 'worked' in that they got beer, but they said they wouldn't do it again.
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I remember they were not very impressed with the beer and it pretty much had no watermelon flavour, defeating the purpose of it in the first place. Still, it might be an interesting experiment sometime.

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Watermelon is a pretty damn subtle flavour, though. I imagine even a small amount of heat would blow out anything you could taste to begin with.

I think it would be interesting to try 2 side-by-side batches where you a) mash with water as normal then add concentrated juice, and b) mash using hot juice.

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I did an apple Saison that turned out nice. I did not put the juice in the mash or boil. I did a partial boil and used some apple juice as top off liquid in the fermenter.

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I did an apple Saison that turned out nice. I did not put the juice in the mash or boil. I did a partial boil and used some apple juice as top off liquid in the fermenter.
I did this too with a highish-gravity Belgian ale. It turned out to be one of the best beers I've made.
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i did not use juice, but i did do an all grain pale with 100% fresh maple sap. overshot my gravity by a touch. plan on spiken it with some syrup after it has been carbed an cooled.

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