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Old 04-05-2013, 09:28 PM   #151
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Found my new secondary when I need to make room for more batches in my AlePails...thanks for the heads up!
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:31 PM   #152
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Woah, holy **** this thread is exploding. And all for the wrong reasons.

The linked sites about the FDA and recycled plastics are not the reason why the Homer buckets are not food safe. A non-food-grade HDPE bucket is not food grade because they use a mold release agent that is toxic to help get the molded bucket off the bucket mold at the factory. Food-safe mold release agents are available, but cost about twice as much, so you can pretty safetly assume if a manufacturer does not specify that it's food grade, they've used the cheap version. This is almost certainly the case with Homer buckets because of the rock bottom low price.

OP, if you want to go cheap on the fermenter, then Homer buckets aren't the way to do it. No offense, but the posters say they're not safe are correct. The cheap way is to buy 5 gallon water jugs designed for camping trips. They cost about $6, come with the lid included, and can be drilled in one of two places for either an airlock or a blowoff tube.

I buy mine at WinCo Foods, but their website is really just a landing page, so it's no help. Here's some pictures I snapped during my last trip, for just a topic such as this:








Here's where I chose to drill out for a 5/16" vinyl blowoff tube (leftover piece from a autosiphon):




Or you could drill out the lid for an airlock or blowoff tube. I wanted to preserve the lid in case I ever decided to use them for something other than fermeters later, and drilling the lid also does not allow you to stack them.



There's also some food safe buckets in the picture at a price you might like more than the $15 6.5-gallon fermenters most of us use.
Thank you for doing the footwork.

Those are twice the cost of what I have, but still really affordable.
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Old 04-07-2013, 04:04 PM   #153
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Thats not really true. All studies about its effects on health are inconclusive and the FDA has not banned it because there is no evidence its harmful. they banned it on use in baby bottles only and that was just to boost consumer confidence after the furor that came out. its been in many of our food containers since 1960.

Yeah no. A quick google search will show literally hundreds of studies showing it is harmful.
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:28 PM   #154
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Thank you for doing the footwork.

Those are twice the cost of what I have, but still really affordable.
Why thank you.

The reason I went with the food-grade camping jugs instead of cheaper food-grade buckets or cheaper food-grade water jugs is compactness and... STACKABILITY!

This is my never-before-pictured wine and cider closet. I can ferment or age up to 8 batches at a time in a space that's approximately 57" wide by 13" deep by 29" tall.

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If you are balking at a $15 bucket then this hobby is not for you.
Ditto
My first fermenter was a Coopers 19L Food Grade HDPE piece and I haven't used it for like 3 years, but Im still here, alive.
I prefer my 5 or 6 gallon carboys.
If your worried about food grade or food safe maybe you shoudnt be brewing beer since its bad for you and try your hand at Buddhism!
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Why thank you.

The reason I went with the food-grade camping jugs instead of cheaper food-grade buckets or cheaper food-grade water jugs is compactness and... STACKABILITY!

This is my never-before-pictured wine and cider closet. I can ferment or age up to 8 batches at a time in a space that's approximately 57" wide by 13" deep by 29" tall.

Awesome pic, What are those juices you seem to be fermenting on the bottom?
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:33 PM   #157
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The big ones are my Trader Joe's juice experiments.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f25/trad...iments-401225/

The little ones are my blowoffs. I dye my StarSan red/pink so I don't condition my malt and wet my frosty mugs with it. Not that it would make anybody sick (have done both before, intentionally, in a pinch). But still.

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I haven't read the whole thread, but Home Depot and Lowe's both have food-grade buckets, but they're only 5 gallons, in white or black. Also, they do have gamma seal lids, which I just found out about through homebrewfinds.com the other day. The model number on the product page is a hint, but the labels actually did say "Gamma" when I picked a few up a couple days ago after work.

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They do indeed carry food-grade buckets at both locations. A common theme through the entire thread was "just buy the food grade ones there".

The OP was about the orange "Homer" buckets specifically.

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Noted. I guess I should have read the whole thread, but I figured I'd just throw that in there while I was posting anyway.

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