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Old 06-13-2009, 09:52 PM   #1
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Well, My first batch. Placed in the secondary a few days ago. Now this happened... IMG000005.jpg picture by Cheesepolp - Photobucket. It's only forming in a circle around the rim. Infection or strange phenomenon.

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Old 06-13-2009, 11:07 PM   #2
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Not so good of a photo. I can't tell anything from that. Anyone else?

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That's a crappy picture..But I'm going to bet that what developed was NOT AN INFECTION...but another krauzen that developed. Because that's what it usually turns out to be in nervous noobs first batches

What more than likely happened was that you racked too soon, while the yeast was still active and they built another krauzen so they could finish the job...

THat's why it is best to wait til fermentation has ceased, usually by taking 2 hydrometer readings over a three day period...or waiting 2 weeks....But even then that's no gaurentee that the yeast won't decide to have another barn raising party in honor of their new digs....they're tenacious that way....

I'm 99.5% certain that you are JUST being paranoid....

Seriously, it is really difficult for a new brewer to get an infection anyway.
Believe it or not, it is really hard to ruin/infect your beer, especially if it is your first batch, and you took even the most rudimentary sanitary precautions....It is actually more likely for an experienced brewer to get an infection- Perhaps they let something slide in their cleaning/sanitization process and something from their previous batch got nasty between brewing sessions, and infected their latest batch- It sometimes happens that small matter gets lodged in a hose connection and doesn't get cleaned out or zapped with the sanitizer....Or perhaps over many uses a fermenter or bottling bucket develops a scratch in it, which becomes a breeding ground for contamination.....but with brand new, cleaned and sanitized equipment...highly unlikely.

What you more than likely have is NORMAL, and which is butt ugly.

If I can impart one bit of "wisdom" for you on your journey as a brewer it is this;

If you brew from fear, you won't make great beer!

You might make drinkable beer, or you might make crap...but until your realize that your beer is much hardier than you think it is, you won't do some basic things, (like using your hydrometer) to make your beer great.

You have a typical new brewer fear that your beer is somehow weak, like a new born baby..and will be ruined or die of you look at it wrong...I want to put it into perspective for you, and save you a lot of new bewer nerves...

Beer has been made for over 5,000 years in some horrific conditions, and still it managed to survive and be popular....It was even made before Louis Pasteur understood germ theory....

If beer turned out bad back then more than it turned out good..then beer would have gone the way of the dodo bird, New Coke, or Pepsi Clear...

It is very very very hard to ruin your beer....it surprises us and manages to survive despite what we do to it...

And doing things like taking a hydro reading, or racking a beer (if you choose to) will not cause more harm to your beer..if you are careful.

I want you to read these threads and see..

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/what...t-great-96780/

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/has-...p-batch-96644/

And this thread to show you how often even a beer we think is ruined, ends up being the best beer you ever made, if you have patience....
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/neve...en-beer-73254/

There is a saying we have in the homebrewing community...RDWHAHB...make that your mantra and you will be a successful homebrewer...


Oh this thread is really good too...if you adopt the mindset in here you will do well...http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/your...0b-when-24540/

It's not brain surgery, it's a hobby...it's supposed to be something fun, not something we stress out on.

Just relax.....

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That's a crappy picture..But I'm going to bet that what developed was NOT AN INFECTION...but another krauzen that developed. Because that's what it usually turns out to be in nervous noobs first batches

What more than likely happened was that you racked too soon, while the yeast was still active and they built another krauzen so they could finish the job...

THat's why it is best to wait til fermentation has ceased, usually by taking 2 hydrometer readings over a three day period...or waiting 2 weeks....But even then that's no gaurentee that the yeast won't decide to have another barn raising party in honor of their new digs....they're tenacious that way....

I'm 99.5% certain that you are JUST being paranoid....

Seriously, it is really difficult for a new brewer to get an infection anyway.
Believe it or not, it is really hard to ruin/infect your beer, especially if it is your first batch, and you took even the most rudimentary sanitary precautions....It is actually more likely for an experienced brewer to get an infection- Perhaps they let something slide in their cleaning/sanitization process and something from their previous batch got nasty between brewing sessions, and infected their latest batch- It sometimes happens that small matter gets lodged in a hose connection and doesn't get cleaned out or zapped with the sanitizer....Or perhaps over many uses a fermenter or bottling bucket develops a scratch in it, which becomes a breeding ground for contamination.....but with brand new, cleaned and sanitized equipment...highly unlikely.

What you more than likely have is NORMAL, and which is butt ugly.

If I can impart one bit of "wisdom" for you on your journey as a brewer it is this;

If you brew from fear, you won't make great beer!

You might make drinkable beer, or you might make crap...but until your realize that your beer is much hardier than you think it is, you won't do some basic things, (like using your hydrometer) to make your beer great.

You have a typical new brewer fear that your beer is somehow weak, like a new born baby..and will be ruined or die of you look at it wrong...I want to put it into perspective for you, and save you a lot of new bewer nerves...

Beer has been made for over 5,000 years in some horrific conditions, and still it managed to survive and be popular....It was even made before Louis Pasteur understood germ theory....

If beer turned out bad back then more than it turned out good..then beer would have gone the way of the dodo bird, New Coke, or Pepsi Clear...

It is very very very hard to ruin your beer....it surprises us and manages to survive despite what we do to it...

And doing things like taking a hydro reading, or racking a beer (if you choose to) will not cause more harm to your beer..if you are careful.

I want you to read these threads and see..

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/what...t-great-96780/

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/has-...p-batch-96644/

And this thread to show you how often even a beer we think is ruined, ends up being the best beer you ever made, if you have patience....
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/neve...en-beer-73254/

There is a saying we have in the homebrewing community...RDWHAHB...make that your mantra and you will be a successful homebrewer...


Oh this thread is really good too...if you adopt the mindset in here you will do well...http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/your...0b-when-24540/

It's not brain surgery, it's a hobby...it's supposed to be something fun, not something we stress out on.

Just relax.....
Yeah!! Longest Post Ever!! Revvy, I get the feeling you're just getting warmed up!
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HUH??? WTF????

uh, I think there are longer ones on here...nor is this the first or 50th time I've posted it......
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uh, I think there are longer ones on here...nor is this the first or 50th time I've posted it......
Or the 500th time.
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Revvy, You're my Hero. I know I'm not even a speck on your radar, but I see you every where. You've helped me so many times already. I have a feeling you'll wind up helping me again. So from a nobody to a giant, Thank you. I hope one day I can be as big as you.

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