Ss Brewing Technologies Giveaway!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Beer Discussion > Alternatives to Hops
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-04-2011, 10:44 PM   #1
ryantate21
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
Posts: 9
Default Alternatives to Hops

Hi my name is Ryan and i live in Serbia,

I will be making my first home brew as soon as soon as my grain is ready for the mill, but over here it is near impossible to get your hands on hops, are there any alternatives i could use?

I was thinking along the lines of dry cinnamon and roasted chestnuts or hazelnuts.

Any feedback or ideas would be highly appreciated.

Ryan.

__________________
ryantate21 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-04-2011, 10:51 PM   #2
29thfloor
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
29thfloor's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Pt. Pleasant, PA
Posts: 266
Liked 6 Times on 6 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Before hops, brewers used something called "gruit" to balance the flavors in their beer. I'm not sure that will be any easier to find in your area, but it's worth checking out:

http://www.gruitale.com/intro_en.htm
http://www.homebrewing.com/articles/gruit.php

__________________
29thfloor.com/blog
Twitter | Facebook | 29thfloor on Instagram
Primary: Sour Brown Ale, Blonde Lambic (Aug 2012)
Secondary:
Kegged: Caramel Hard Cider, Belgian Milk Stout, Double Wit
Bottled: Berliner Weisse, Oaked Tripel Brett, Dawson's Kriek, Sweet Mead
29thfloor is offline
ryantate21 Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-04-2011, 11:04 PM   #3
ryantate21
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
Posts: 9
Default

Thanks for the links, both helpful and interesting reads. There is a few bio markets/health stores here that i think will suply majority of the herbs mentioned.

What results would you expect from citrus fruit zests or roasted nuts?

__________________
ryantate21 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-04-2011, 11:10 PM   #4
hoppymonkey
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: north atlanta
Posts: 1,021
Liked 11 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryantate21 View Post
Thanks for the links, both helpful and interesting reads. There is a few bio markets/health stores here that i think will suply majority of the herbs mentioned.

What results would you expect from citrus fruit zests or roasted nuts?
NOt sure of nuts, but citrus/coriander leaves a nice fruity flavor behind. Very nice in wheats,hefes, and wits.


And FYI Wormwood is BITTER!!!
__________________
hoppymonkey is offline
ryantate21 Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-04-2011, 11:19 PM   #5
ryantate21
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
Posts: 9
Default

thanks a lot for the advice... I've got a feeling a lot of experimenting will be involved in the first few batches, fingers crossed i can get a nice tasting brew!

__________________
ryantate21 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-04-2011, 11:41 PM   #6
htc
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Potosi, Missouri
Posts: 136
Liked 13 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 22

Default

Good luck to you, but something tells me that without hops for bittering your brew won't come out tasting like anything you're familiar with. Not that it won't taste great, just different.

Have you prospected the idea of growing your own hops? Granted I'm on another side of the world, but sources for hop rhizomes aren't too hard to come by here.

__________________
htc is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-05-2011, 12:12 AM   #7
Phunhog
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,886
Liked 140 Times on 105 Posts
Likes Given: 67

Default

You might also want to try rosemary. A guy in my homebrew club brewed an IPA with nothing but rosemary. It was surprisingly good!! The rosemary gave it a nice piney flavor and aroma. Just be careful because it is easy to over do it.

__________________

Check out my nanobrewery!
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Two-Trees-Brewing-Co/102323289804018

Phunhog is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-05-2011, 04:56 AM   #8
biochemedic
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
biochemedic's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Carnegie, PA
Posts: 1,805
Liked 77 Times on 68 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 29thfloor View Post
Before hops, brewers used something called "gruit" to balance the flavors in their beer. I'm not sure that will be any easier to find in your area, but it's worth checking out:

http://www.gruitale.com/intro_en.htm
http://www.homebrewing.com/articles/gruit.php
...the first link is especially excellent, and one that I used extensively in planning some gruits that I did in the past. I've also ordered some herbs from the site, and was very satisfied.

Quote:
Originally Posted by htc View Post
Good luck to you, but something tells me that without hops for bittering your brew won't come out tasting like anything you're familiar with. Not that it won't taste great, just different.
Gruit is indeed very different from anything that most people know beer to be...it tends to be a bit on the tart side (especially if you use yarrow for bittering), and has much more of an herbal/earthy quality to it. Not unpleasant at all, especially if you let it age for a while, but definitely not like "normal" modern beer...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phunhog View Post
You might also want to try rosemary. A guy in my homebrew club brewed an IPA with nothing but rosemary. It was surprisingly good!! The rosemary gave it a nice piney flavor and aroma. Just be careful because it is easy to over do it.
Rosemary can be used as a bittering herb and flavoring herb...the March or Wild rosemary that is one of the traditional brewing herbs is actually in the rhododendron family though.
__________________
Packaged: A bunch of random stuff...*and* American Pale Mosaic SMaSH
Recent Meads: Mead Day '11 Ginger Metheglin, Mead Day '12 Traditional (orange blossom) Mead, Fresh Simple Cyser '12
Primary: Hopefully being refilled next week!
Secondary: Why do I keep this line here...?
Bulk Aging: Cocobochet
Planned: Hop Metheglin #3 (NZ hops), Trad. Gesho T'ej
biochemedic is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-05-2011, 11:10 PM   #9
ryantate21
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
Posts: 9
Default

thanks all for the advice, i will lt you know how the brew comes along.

__________________
ryantate21 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-05-2011, 11:19 PM   #10
terrapinj
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Posts: 2,412
Liked 167 Times on 124 Posts
Likes Given: 533

Default

some health food stores will also carry hops as a nutritional supplement if they have bulk herbs etc - worth asking them if they can get them if you can't find them elsewhere

you would be going in blind since they won't list the variety or AA% but certainly worth looking into

__________________
terrapinj is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Whole Leaf Hops Vs Pellet Hops how to use? JLW General Beer Discussion 5 06-17-2011 04:08 PM
Storing Hops from hops direct Steven4est General Beer Discussion 13 10-17-2010 12:24 PM
Hop Alternatives? dummkauf General Beer Discussion 17 04-05-2010 06:44 AM
Fresh hops to pellet hops? mike1978 General Beer Discussion 4 01-11-2010 01:31 AM
Lactose intolerance..alternatives to sweeten mensplace General Beer Discussion 15 03-05-2009 04:10 AM