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View Poll Results: Should our new brewpub allow smoking?
Yes! Places like this should allow smoking. 92 16.03%
On the fence - I may come in occasionally if smoking were allowed inside. 78 13.59%
I would never set foot in that stink-hole if smoking were allowed. 404 70.38%
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Old 11-26-2010, 07:58 PM   #1
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Default Allow smoking in our new pub?

My partners want smoking. I would like to hear what you guys who really appreciate beer think of this. Its an Irish-themed small brewpub/restaurant. There is not the option of making a smoking "section" because of the way the place is laid out.

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It depends on what type of beers your serving. I voted no, because the bars I frequent carry only good beers. Beers that I don't want to enjoy while surrounded by a cloud of smoke.

I'm a smoker, but I still enjoy leaving a bar not smelling like smoke. With the smoking ban in illinois, it helps. I think most states will eventually ban smoking too, so why not start out smoke free?

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From someone who lives in a place where smoking is not allowed in any publically accessible building, I can say 100% I will never again go to an establishment that allows it here in this country. When in Rome, different story, but not here.

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Besides my beers, there will be upper-end craft and imports on tap. Also liquor.

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I can't stand the smell of cigarette smoke. I can accept smoking at an outside patio at the bar, inside I would never even consider setting foot in it. I refuse to patron the Hard Rock Casino because they allow smoking inside.

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Allow smoking at the bar, and concentrate the return air ducting in that area. If someone doesn't want to be around the smoke, let them get a table. If you've got an outdoor patio area for people to smoke, no worries. Be thankful you live in an area where the government will actually allow the owner to make that call, instead of whatever local real estate agent/ambulance chasing attorney won a commission seat gets to decide for you.

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Also, realize this: With a question on a forum like this, your responses are likely to be from people on the extremes of the issue, not the vast majority of people.

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I don't think it takes away smokers who can't smoke in your pub. Smokers can and will go outside, and everyone will be happy.

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It's not that I wouldn't step foot in there, but a smokey dive is one kind of place, a clean brewpub with clear air is another.

No question which one I would prefer (assuming the beer was equal) There are enough smoky dives.

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I didn't vote because I don't like the tone of your responses, but I would vote no, not because of the "I would never set foot in that stink-hole." But because I have never been in a true brewpub where smoking was allowed. Even before Michigan went non-smoking in public, the true brew pubs/microbreweries that had the best beer, and were just not trying to be trendy, did NOT allow smoking in their places.

Those places really believed that thier beer be tasted and smelled under the best conditons, and they felt that a smoky room wasn't condusive to that. It was that simple....in fact most of the staff, brewers, even a few owners of these places WERE smokers, so it wasn't someone on the "extreme" non-smoking side of the argument, being "smoking nazis." Just people who appreciated their craft, and wanted others to be able to appreciate it at it's best.

Even when I was a smoker, in those places it really wasn't a big deal to step outside to grab one, and usually it would even be with some of the staff, including the brewer. I may have not liked doing it in a regular bar where bmc was sold, but I could appreciate that the owners and brewers really cared about their product enough to want their customers to really appreciate all the subtle nuances in aroma and flavor- the hard work that went into it.

These places also tended to have knowlegable wait staff as well. It seemed that these places really cared about their beer enough to make for a well rounded and pleasing environment.

Most of the places that didn't allow smoking were GABF and other award winning places, including some you mak have heard of including, Dragonmead and Kuhnenn's. Both serious winners of awards for years. Both with beers consistatnly on top 100 lists of craft beers.

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