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Old 12-22-2010, 02:28 PM   #1
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I have a friend who is a wine and scotch drinker. Not saying that he thinks low of beer, but he probably hasn't had the right one yet (that's what I tell everyone who thinks of beer as a low drink). He drinks very high end stuff and I am trying to convince him that I can brew a beer that he can, at the very least, enjoy. I am not trying to take over his $200 wines and $100 scotches, but a little competion is always good. Any suggestions? I was thinking of messing around with a rauchbier recipe and tweaking it to complement a scotch flavor since you need to match the smokiness. Also probably keep the hop profile medium with enough herbal to match the peaty flavor most scotches contain. Let me know your thoughts, and if you have converted anyone as well!

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Old 12-22-2010, 02:35 PM   #2
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does he drink heavy peat scotches?

give him ommegang Cup o Kyndness

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Old 12-22-2010, 02:37 PM   #3
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or three philosophers.

hell, just buy him The End of History or Utopia

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Old 12-22-2010, 02:38 PM   #4
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Old Ale with peat smoked malt? upwards of 10% Abv...

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Old 12-22-2010, 02:39 PM   #5
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KBS clone

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Old 12-22-2010, 03:15 PM   #6
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or a scottish wee heavy, or maybe a good english barleywine

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Old 12-22-2010, 03:47 PM   #7
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I would not try to duplicate the experience of wine or scotch by making a beer that competes head on with those drinks. I'd be more inclined to go with a hoppy well made American beer. My last fully finished beer was a Green Flash West Coast IPA clone, crystal clear, smooth, hoppy and perfectly balanced bitterness. Not to be confused with Scotch or Wine, which I like both of anyway.

I have some friends who don't like beer, except for what I brew. I did not attempt to convert them however as I brew what I like.

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Old 12-22-2010, 03:55 PM   #8
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Sounds like your friend enjoys sipping on a fine beverage whether it be scotch or wine. I would go with a high alcohol beer that can be sipped and enjoyed in a tulip or a snifter. I like the English Barleywine idea or the wee heavy.

If you are trying to give him something that will supplement his scotch and wine, I would go with something that has a smoky or oakey taste...something he can relate to.

When presenting the beer to him, present it in a way that makes it seem high class like a nice bottle of wine. Serve it in the right glass and at the right temperature. And explain to him what he is drinking and why it is different from a can of PBR.

I work at a high end wine bar and we serve a lot of bombers to people who do not necessarily like wine. We serve them in the same way we would serve a bottle of wine and they love it. Everyone at the table becomes intrigued by the beer. Its a lot more effective than putting a pint glass on the table and having them pour it themselves.

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I would not try to duplicate the experience of wine or scotch by making a beer that competes head on with those drinks.
I am a wine drinker myself (mostly cabernet and zinfindel), and love me some $100 single malt scotches. You are not going to win at trying to match those. where you will win, and the reason that I got back into home brewing is with the Trappist-style beers. If you can recreate a St. Bernadus ABT 12, a Chimay Blue, or a Westvleteren Triple, all around 9-10% ABV, you will convince him. Or at least it convinced me. The St. Bernardus is the best beer I have ever tasted.

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We serve them in the same way we would serve a bottle of wine and they love it. Everyone at the table becomes intrigued by the beer. Its a lot more effective than putting a pint glass on the table and having them pour it themselves.
If you go this route, bottle it in a belgian 750ml bottle with corks and baskets and serve it in a footed glass. Presentation is a big part of the experience.
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Old 12-22-2010, 04:07 PM   #10
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This was an awesome beer. Rich and malty with a slight hint of smoke. Very smooth...almost creamy. A good, complex sipping beer.

Recipe: BierMunchers Sleeping Giant Scottish Ale
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Style: Scottish Export 80/-
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 12.00 gal
Boil Size: 14.84 gal
Estimated OG: 1.050 SG
Estimated Color: 15.3 SRM
Estimated IBU: 17.6 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 77.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

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Amount Item Type % or IBU
19.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
1.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM)
1.00 lb Smoked Malt (not peat smoked) (9.0 SRM)
0.40 lb Roasted Barley (400.0 SRM)
2.00 oz Fuggles [4.50%] (50 min)
1.00 oz Fuggles [4.50%] (20 min)

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