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11-07-2008, 08:36 AM
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For the love of beer!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cheshire, England
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All Grain brewing without recipes.
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I've been cooking food for.....well lets just say a long time.
I learnt the techniques, then I learnt the classic recipes. I then deconstructed them while learning about the individual ingredients. Along the way taking inspiration from others.
All of this allows me to replicate and create dishes without needing to follow recipes or weigh ingredients.
I'm finding that I'm enjoying doing the same type of thing with brewing. I don't have any were near the range of styles when it comes to the beer but I can create all the styles that I need/want. I find it quite liberating and exciting to brew this way.
The only down side to this is that it not so easy to share the recipes with other brewers and every brew will always be unique to some small degree.
What made this possible??????
HBT and you guys made it possible.
THANKS
This is the latest, an Elderberry RIS.

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11-07-2008, 11:37 AM
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Orfy, that looks like a MEAL in a glass! I mean an appetizer, salad, main course and dessert! Not to mention the Redi-Whip for the bedroom later! Looks great, and no sir, thank you!
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Primary- Circle City Haus Ale
Secondary- Orange Cascade APA (dry hop)
Keg1- Centennial Blonde (On tap)
Keg2- Oktoberfest (On tap)
Keg3- Christmas Spice
Keg4- Fire In The Hole
Keg5- AIR
Keg6- AIR
Keg7- AIR
Keg8- AIR
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11-07-2008, 12:21 PM
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Im an obsessive ass, so trying this would never be an option. But good on you for brewing without a recipe. 
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11-07-2008, 12:28 PM
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I've been wondering how this would turn out since you first mentioned that you were going to do it a while back. Looks great!! Did you cave in and use a hydrometer in the end to see what Gravity you got?
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11-07-2008, 12:48 PM
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Seriously, Orfy, your Hobgoblin recipe alone is thanks enough for this board. And congrats on the Elderberry RIS! Looks awesome. How does it taste?...body, fruit, etc.
As far as brewing goes, your developed approach reminds me of my grandmother. She makes some of the most amazing food (think Pennsylvanian German-American farm-wife) and whenever we try to get recipes out of her (she won't live forever), it's like "a bit of this," "a pinch of that," "bake it for as long as it takes your grandfather to mow the 10-acre field," etc. But don't worry, I won't start calling you "Nana" or anything. 
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Last edited by menschmaschine; 11-07-2008 at 01:20 PM.
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11-07-2008, 02:03 PM
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Cranky Old Guy
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Reminds me of a family I knew in New Jersey. In order to preserve Gram's "recipes", they would weight everything she was going to use and re-weight after she was done. Unfortunately, this made Gram nervous and she'd do things like add a handful of salt to a pie!
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11-07-2008, 02:19 PM
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For the love of beer!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cheshire, England
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I like it. A LOT.
You wouldn't know there are elderberries in it.
I've been told things like.....
"That's how Guinness should taste"
"Mmmmmm, can you serve that an a plate?"
"I'll just have half" from some one who say's they're not keen on big dark beers. Four pints later they were drunk.
"Can you brew me some" .....Er, yes if you wait till next year and you spend 5 hours picking and preping the Elderberries.
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Gnome
I've been wondering how this would turn out since you first mentioned that you were going to do it a while back. Looks great!! Did you cave in and use a hydrometer in the end to see what Gravity you got?
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I did a quick check when I was kegging it. I knew it was done from the taste but there was no real reason not to take a sample. It was 1012.
I was aiming for something 6-7% and it is well balanced and easy to drink. I find it quite refreshing.
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11-07-2008, 02:58 PM
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I do the same thing when cooking, but with beer I am way too OCD to just eyeball everything. Maybe when I do my English Smash I'll just start throwing handfuls of stuff in there.
PS: Your father smells of elderberries
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11-07-2008, 03:05 PM
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We get it, you hate BMC.
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Congrats, but that style of brewing is not for me! I just bought a postage scale so I can weigh carboys. I have a usb probe thermometer so I can make temp logs. I like precise measurement.
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Fermenting:.
Conditioning:[Oaked Cider][ESB]
On Tap.........[The Munchner][Spiced Cider][English Cider][Simcoe IPA][Triple Hops Grooved][Cider'n 'gnac]
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11-07-2008, 03:12 PM
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Props to you, orfy. Thanks for reminding us that beer making is an art and craft first, and a science project second.
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