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Old 03-04-2013, 08:52 PM   #221
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It looks like the people in power in Alabama don't believe in freedom...

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Old 03-04-2013, 09:50 PM   #222
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I dunno -

Lots of counties you can walk into the courthouse, pay $20 and walk out with a concealed carry permit. No requirements for non-criminals to jump through worthless hoops like a lot of states.

Most counties, there are no building code requirements, you're free to do whatever you want. No building permit, no phase inspections, just a septic permit and a meter base inspection and you're golden.

I'm not required to peel the tint off my windows every year to pay the state to "inspect" my vehicle.

In most places, I can get my own property zoned for whatever the hell I want to do with it, and in a lot of those places I don't have to have it zoned at all. I can already do what I want.

I'm sure the list goes on that a lot of other places don't have. It's just a matter of where our government chooses to stick it to us compared to where your government chooses to stick it to you!

I've lived a couple other places.... I kinda like it around here. I am working on moving out of the 'city' where I'll have a little more freedom though. If I wanna take a leak in my own front yard, I see nothing wrong with that. My neighbors right now probably would.

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Old 03-04-2013, 10:17 PM   #223
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If your tinting is so dark that you'd have to peel it off then it's dark enough to ticket you. Granted, I bought a car long since tinted and got pulled over to be ticketed on my trip taking it to have work done. I have a theory about that but it'd be frowned on here. Must say it's rather infuriating to be pulled over and slapped with a window tinting ticket when I'm sitting there watching darker windows pass.

On the upside we've still got time left. Not that that would help us if they decide to sit on their laurels and play stupid. Frankly, while I didn't personally have issue with their "pay raise," I believe they should have to vote on every single prepared bill that makes it out of committee before they can end the session.

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Old 03-04-2013, 11:54 PM   #224
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Hope it passes, I'm originally from Mobile, AL. Living in TN now, but frequently take some homebrew with me on trips back home to Alabama.

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Old 03-06-2013, 02:28 PM   #225
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The haven't updated the SOC on the website yet. Not sure what is going on, other than this:

Montgomery, AL -
By PHILLIP RAWLS
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MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - A judge plans to rule Wednesday on whether the governor can sign into law a bill providing private school tax credits.

Gov. Robert Bentley had planned to sign the bill Tuesday afternoon, but Montgomery Circuit Court Judge Charles Price temporarily put that on hold while he considers a lawsuit filed by the Alabama Education Association.

Price's temporary hold order reads as followed:

"At whatever time the Alabama House of Representatives goes into session today, the House Journal is opened, and /or House Bill 84 is transmitted to Defendant Jeff Woodard, Defendant Jeff Woodard, any employee under his direction or control as Clerk of the Alabama House of Representatives, or any other person acting in concert with him, is hereby enjoined and restrained from taking any action on HB 84, including, but not limited to the acts of enrolling or transmitting the bill to the Governor, until this order is altered, amended, vacated, or superseded."

Price heard arguments Tuesday afternoon on whether the Legislature violated Alabama's open meeting law and its own operating rules in passing the bill in a series of quick votes Thursday night.

Price told attorneys to be back in his courtroom at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday when he will give them his decision.

The bill provides tax credits for parents who move their children from failing public schools to private schools. Tax credits would help cover tuition.

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Old 03-06-2013, 02:38 PM   #226
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Yeah, Republican bills are screwed for the rest of this session I bet.

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The money would also follow the child to another public school if that's where the parent chooses to send their child. I think it's a great thing all things considered. But got my fingers crossed they'll get to the homebrew bill and get it signed into law this year as well.

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I think it would be the start of the end of public education in this state. A bad thing and a bad bill, IMO.

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Their fixes for public schools are jokes and travesties at best. My daughter is so far beyond the majority of the students at her school in the grade above her it's laughable at best. She's already devoured their library which isn't difficult as they limit her to books they consider 4th grade reading level (she's in 1st). Like it or not, the private institutions are doing something right (frequently anyway) or people wouldn't be paying the exorbitant tuition they demand. They also tend to be less prone to government guided indoctrination than the public monstrosities. And for the record, my father was a long time public school teacher in Alabama supports the bill as well. When you nourish and support failure, it flourishes and expands. No child falls behind = No child gets ahead. As the bar plummets, many kids will pay the price as a result in the current broken system as a result.

Back on topic though, so we're likely going to get screwed over yet again because of one political group's butthurted? Fanfreakingtastic. I still maintain that any bill that makes it out of committee should be REQUIRED to have a vote on have a vote cast before they're allowed to close session. You better gd well believe if your butt gets drafted for Grand Jury duty they make you go through 100% of those cases before they let you go.

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Does anyone know when they reconvene? (either House or Senate?)

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